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> People spend a lot of time discussing the chronic youth issues but the reality is that Juul never wanted to sell to youths or anything of the sort — they were
by FireBeyond 4y ago
> People spend a lot of time discussing the chronic youth issues but the reality is that Juul never wanted to sell to youths or anything of the sort — they were just _so_ incompetent at operations that they couldn't do anything.
> I do not believe Juul consciously or explicitly wanted youths to use Juul
This... is not incompetence or a side effect.
They fucking paid schools to tell kids that Vaping was safe. You can try to say "oh, they didn't realllllly want to sell to kids, they just weren't good at their job".
They gave ad agencies specific briefs saying that their target market for a campaign was '13-17 year olds'.
"They didn't realllllly want to sell to kids".
No. They knew exactly what the fuck they were doing.
- ethbr0 4y agoI think what parent is saying is that you get a lot of outcomes when you have unmonitored VPs with a few million dollars of budget. Regardless of what the corporate intent is. Inasmuch as there can be one in such a company.
- FireBeyond 4y agoWhen your corporate intent is not to fire VPs who go "off the reservation", but continue to employ, reward them with bonuses, there's a plausible argument that you're absolutely defining that as your corporate intent.
- ethbr0 4y agoPer parent's description, there was no reservation. It was just everyone doing their own thing. And having worked at a few companies that suddenly fell into orders-of-magnitude more revenue, it rings plausible. When the money hose is spewing, nobody spends much time asking "Why?" anyone is doing anything, as long as it's just shy (or sometime inclusive) of embezzlement.
- krageon 4y agoCorporate intent is the intent of the VPs in aggregate.