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That's why the real diversity - the diversity of ideas - is important. There aren't many mustache-twirling villains that wake up with the thought of suppressing

by smsm42 4y ago

That's why the real diversity - the diversity of ideas - is important. There aren't many mustache-twirling villains that wake up with the thought of suppressing ideas for the fun of it. Most people who suppress ideas think that's because they have the right ideas and the others have wrong ideas. Except turns out even very very smart people can be mistaken from time to time. And maybe it's worth to allow some ideas that we think are wrong to be around - just in case some of them turn out to be correct later.

shireboy 4y ago
I think this is the most important take away, with lots of nexus into other medical and non-medical science. Cognitive bias is a real tricky beast and even the best are not immune. Strategies to celebrate and learn from failure, and to allow for alternative and moonshot ideas to be tested should help.
- trinsic2 4y ago
  I agree, but as many already have commented, I think believing "I'm wrong and someone else is right" goes against self-preservation for most. I have been working for years on my own mental-emotional health and I still get caught into patterns of destructive ego. I think this is mostly an evolution problem. Our minds are built, layer by layer over time to incorporate certain patterns of thinking that helps perpetuate our species. But now with our current technological achievements, the mammal part of our brain is an actual detriment to human progress, at least to a certain extent. Until we evolve past those part of our brain that have a hand in creating these blind spots, I'm guessing we are going to be subjected to the problems like cognitive bias for a long while, at least a couple of more generations.
  - smsm42 4y ago
    You don't need to go as far as "I'm wrong and someone else is right". It's enough if you admit that "while I am sure I am right, many smart people before claimed that, and some of them turned out to be wrong. Knowing that, I will sacrifice some of the perceived efficiency and agree to admit the chance I might be wrong, and so allocate costs and effort to be spent on the case when I'm wrong, even if I am currently convinced that these costs and effort will be wasted". This goes against the technocratic instinct of optimizing everything, but one has to remember about "premature optimization is the root of all evil".
    - trinsic2 4y ago
      It's my understanding that engaging from the ego mindset "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" operates at an unconscious level when feeling threatened by a viewpoint, which has its roots in "If im wrong, then I don't exist, or Ill die". So when a individual has a strong ego investment in a position, its not really about what kind of view you are coming from on a conscious level because the unconscious mind drives this part. If i am understanding you correctly, I'm guessing you think that all people should be fair and just in their actions. The fact remains that we have this part of ourselves that can short circuit that kind of reasoning and it does drive much of our destructive behavior as a human species. IMHO Its going to take awhile for the human species to evolve out of that.

by smsm42 4y ago

shireboy 4y ago

I think this is the most important take away, with lots of nexus into other medical and non-medical science. Cognitive bias is a real tricky beast and even the best are not immune. Strategies to celebrate and learn from failure, and to allow for alternative and moonshot ideas to be tested should help.

trinsic2 4y ago
I agree, but as many already have commented, I think believing "I'm wrong and someone else is right" goes against self-preservation for most. I have been working for years on my own mental-emotional health and I still get caught into patterns of destructive ego. I think this is mostly an evolution problem. Our minds are built, layer by layer over time to incorporate certain patterns of thinking that helps perpetuate our species. But now with our current technological achievements, the mammal part of our brain is an actual detriment to human progress, at least to a certain extent. Until we evolve past those part of our brain that have a hand in creating these blind spots, I'm guessing we are going to be subjected to the problems like cognitive bias for a long while, at least a couple of more generations.
- smsm42 4y ago
  You don't need to go as far as "I'm wrong and someone else is right". It's enough if you admit that "while I am sure I am right, many smart people before claimed that, and some of them turned out to be wrong. Knowing that, I will sacrifice some of the perceived efficiency and agree to admit the chance I might be wrong, and so allocate costs and effort to be spent on the case when I'm wrong, even if I am currently convinced that these costs and effort will be wasted". This goes against the technocratic instinct of optimizing everything, but one has to remember about "premature optimization is the root of all evil".
  - trinsic2 4y ago
    It's my understanding that engaging from the ego mindset "I'm right and everyone else is wrong" operates at an unconscious level when feeling threatened by a viewpoint, which has its roots in "If im wrong, then I don't exist, or Ill die". So when a individual has a strong ego investment in a position, its not really about what kind of view you are coming from on a conscious level because the unconscious mind drives this part. If i am understanding you correctly, I'm guessing you think that all people should be fair and just in their actions. The fact remains that we have this part of ourselves that can short circuit that kind of reasoning and it does drive much of our destructive behavior as a human species. IMHO Its going to take awhile for the human species to evolve out of that.