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Please give us more of these in europe as well. We are choked by vws, bmws and mercedeses. Hopefully small electric cars will become the norm in urban centres.

gambiting 4y ago
I got a Volkswagen e-UP recently, and it's incredible for what it is - 160 miles of electric range, small, very nimble, large enough for 4 people and some stuff in the back - it's perfect. I have a much larger much more comfortable SUV too, but the e-UP is my car of choice recently. It costs £1.50 for a full charge too - less than a litre of petrol.
- yrgulation 4y ago
  Somehow the e-up wasn't on my radar until your comment now. Thanks for sharing your experience. I mostly ask uber drivers about their experience with full evs as they push them to their limits, and most drove nissan leaf or renault zoe. At least those i met, and were _very_ happy with them. I was told that even cars with >200km once the batteries are replaced they drive like new. Pretty impressive. But i think even those are still too large for cities. In my view we need to clean the air _and_ free up space, hence something smaller would be more suitable. Imagine how much less traffic there would be on the m25 or london if they were limited to micro cars.
  - aeyes 4y ago
    Another car in a similar category is the electric Smart, the only problem is the price.
  - imtringued 4y ago
    What about electric motorcycles like the eRockit?
  - schiffern 4y ago
    If you want something smaller, in Amsterdam I'd see these regularly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canta_(vehicle) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canta_(vehicle) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOIrBqt21c4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOIrBqt21c4
systemvoltage 4y ago
We should build a dyson sphere and get humanity to a Type II Kardeshev scale. Instead, the future looks like eating crickets, climate alarmicism, living in mobile pods and feeling good about driving 2 seater eco-cars. Sad.
- yrgulation 4y ago
  So whats the plan? Keep doing what we are doing? I am not the hippie type, but we simply cant continue this way. I strongly disagree with people that say we need less creature comforts in order to improve our ways of managing the environment. I think we should aim for even more mobility, even more living space, even more food, but with much more care about our environment. Whats the worse that can happen? We get to breathe cleaner air for “nothing”? I sometimes pause and think about how we are able to harness the power of our star, or control atoms, to fuel our cars and power our homes instead of burning crap and inhaling smoke. I think we are getting somewhere.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    Yea, I think there is a general malaise in certain laptop class / elite class people. First of all, Fossil fuels are the most incredible thing mankind has ever invented. It lead to population increase and saved millions of lives, possibly hundrends of millions of lives. It has enabled everything from agriculture, mining to industrialization and medicine. If there is one thing that has had a profound positive impact on humans, that is Fossil Fuels. But ask anyone that they'll want to murder you for saying what I just said even though I haven't said a peep about carbon emissions. The malaise from people/media is separating Non-renewability of FF + negative aspect of carbon emissions from the benefits of FF. So the first thing is to remove the militant climate alarmicism and focus on solutions. Here is EU backpeddling the climate agenda that didn't have a sound backbone, this is what happens: https://www.ft.com/content/a8b179e2-b565-42b6-bb41-90aea44536e1 https://www.ft.com/content/a8b179e2-b565-42b6-bb41-90aea4453... Second, we need to adopt a radical pro-energy agenda that transforms us from FF-mix to renewable-mix. Here is what the current Democratic party can do (but they won't): https://twitter.com/JonSpearman24/status/1539044975429681152 https://twitter.com/JonSpearman24/status/1539044975429681152 Third, push back on people that want depopulation, regression of life, reduction of standards, "equity" based resource usage, etc under the name of ESG, Climate Change, etc. The entire thing is a philosophical and political headwind. We could solve climate change completely and utterly if we invest in technology and build like a gazillion nuclear power plants. It makes me wonder if the malaise is not rooted in facts, but the elite/laptop class that wants to crush lower class into depopulation for their own benefits (their kids would have a less competition for resources for survival).
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gambiting 4y ago

I got a Volkswagen e-UP recently, and it's incredible for what it is - 160 miles of electric range, small, very nimble, large enough for 4 people and some stuff in the back - it's perfect. I have a much larger much more comfortable SUV too, but the e-UP is my car of choice recently. It costs £1.50 for a full charge too - less than a litre of petrol.

yrgulation 4y ago
Somehow the e-up wasn't on my radar until your comment now. Thanks for sharing your experience. I mostly ask uber drivers about their experience with full evs as they push them to their limits, and most drove nissan leaf or renault zoe. At least those i met, and were _very_ happy with them. I was told that even cars with >200km once the batteries are replaced they drive like new. Pretty impressive. But i think even those are still too large for cities. In my view we need to clean the air _and_ free up space, hence something smaller would be more suitable. Imagine how much less traffic there would be on the m25 or london if they were limited to micro cars.
- aeyes 4y ago
  Another car in a similar category is the electric Smart, the only problem is the price.
- imtringued 4y ago
  What about electric motorcycles like the eRockit?
- schiffern 4y ago
  If you want something smaller, in Amsterdam I'd see these regularly: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canta_(vehicle) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canta_(vehicle) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOIrBqt21c4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOIrBqt21c4

systemvoltage 4y ago

We should build a dyson sphere and get humanity to a Type II Kardeshev scale. Instead, the future looks like eating crickets, climate alarmicism, living in mobile pods and feeling good about driving 2 seater eco-cars. Sad.

yrgulation 4y ago
So whats the plan? Keep doing what we are doing? I am not the hippie type, but we simply cant continue this way. I strongly disagree with people that say we need less creature comforts in order to improve our ways of managing the environment. I think we should aim for even more mobility, even more living space, even more food, but with much more care about our environment. Whats the worse that can happen? We get to breathe cleaner air for “nothing”? I sometimes pause and think about how we are able to harness the power of our star, or control atoms, to fuel our cars and power our homes instead of burning crap and inhaling smoke. I think we are getting somewhere.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  Yea, I think there is a general malaise in certain laptop class / elite class people. First of all, Fossil fuels are the most incredible thing mankind has ever invented. It lead to population increase and saved millions of lives, possibly hundrends of millions of lives. It has enabled everything from agriculture, mining to industrialization and medicine. If there is one thing that has had a profound positive impact on humans, that is Fossil Fuels. But ask anyone that they'll want to murder you for saying what I just said even though I haven't said a peep about carbon emissions. The malaise from people/media is separating Non-renewability of FF + negative aspect of carbon emissions from the benefits of FF. So the first thing is to remove the militant climate alarmicism and focus on solutions. Here is EU backpeddling the climate agenda that didn't have a sound backbone, this is what happens: https://www.ft.com/content/a8b179e2-b565-42b6-bb41-90aea44536e1 https://www.ft.com/content/a8b179e2-b565-42b6-bb41-90aea4453... Second, we need to adopt a radical pro-energy agenda that transforms us from FF-mix to renewable-mix. Here is what the current Democratic party can do (but they won't): https://twitter.com/JonSpearman24/status/1539044975429681152 https://twitter.com/JonSpearman24/status/1539044975429681152 Third, push back on people that want depopulation, regression of life, reduction of standards, "equity" based resource usage, etc under the name of ESG, Climate Change, etc. The entire thing is a philosophical and political headwind. We could solve climate change completely and utterly if we invest in technology and build like a gazillion nuclear power plants. It makes me wonder if the malaise is not rooted in facts, but the elite/laptop class that wants to crush lower class into depopulation for their own benefits (their kids would have a less competition for resources for survival).

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