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> Teachers pay extremely poor in the vast majority of states in the US. You hear this over and over and nobody ever provides numbers, they just assure you it's

> Teachers pay extremely poor in the vast majority of states in the US. You hear this over and over and nobody ever provides numbers, they just assure you it's horrible.

piva00 4y ago
You can check some numbers, ranked, by state: https://www.businessinsider.com/teacher-salary-in-every-state-2018-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/teacher-salary-in-every-stat...
- lotsofpulp 4y ago
  Numbers are not going to capture the terrible quality of life at work for many teachers. Plus all the extra hours they work outside of school.
  - mancerayder 4y ago
    There's also a very long set of holidays.
    - camgunz 4y ago
      Teachers often have to do teaching work over the holidays or attend continuing education. Or they have to work their 2nd job because teaching doesn't pay enough.
    - loonster 4y ago
      Dont forget about the vacation and PTO ontop of the holidays. I would gladly take a 20% pay cut to get the same perks.
      - notacoward 4y ago
        So why don't you? Your employer would almost certainly be willing (source: I have successfully gone through this kind of negotiation myself). If they're not, there are probably other employers looking for the same skills. Or was your claim merely convenient rather than true?
        loonster 4y ago
        I'm a tool designer for a small company. The company doesnt have the manpower to cover abcenses that long. I could probably negotiate that if I left for a bigger company. This would also likely require a move.
camgunz 4y ago
The NEA has great numbers on their website: https://www.nea.org/resource-library/teacher-salary-benchmarks https://www.nea.org/resource-library/teacher-salary-benchmar.... Let me post the US average here: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Starting | Top Bachelor's | Starting Master's | Top Master's | Top Salary | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | $41,770 | $60,381 | $45,391 | $70,279 | $76,540 | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

> Teachers pay extremely poor in the vast majority of states in the US. You hear this over and over and nobody ever provides numbers, they just assure you it's horrible.

piva00 4y ago

You can check some numbers, ranked, by state: https://www.businessinsider.com/teacher-salary-in-every-state-2018-4 https://www.businessinsider.com/teacher-salary-in-every-stat...

lotsofpulp 4y ago
Numbers are not going to capture the terrible quality of life at work for many teachers. Plus all the extra hours they work outside of school.
- mancerayder 4y ago
  There's also a very long set of holidays.
  - camgunz 4y ago
    Teachers often have to do teaching work over the holidays or attend continuing education. Or they have to work their 2nd job because teaching doesn't pay enough.
  - loonster 4y ago
    Dont forget about the vacation and PTO ontop of the holidays. I would gladly take a 20% pay cut to get the same perks.
    - notacoward 4y ago
      So why don't you? Your employer would almost certainly be willing (source: I have successfully gone through this kind of negotiation myself). If they're not, there are probably other employers looking for the same skills. Or was your claim merely convenient rather than true?
      - loonster 4y ago
        I'm a tool designer for a small company. The company doesnt have the manpower to cover abcenses that long. I could probably negotiate that if I left for a bigger company. This would also likely require a move.

camgunz 4y ago

The NEA has great numbers on their website: https://www.nea.org/resource-library/teacher-salary-benchmarks https://www.nea.org/resource-library/teacher-salary-benchmar.... Let me post the US average here: ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | Starting | Top Bachelor's | Starting Master's | Top Master's | Top Salary | ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- | $41,770 | $60,381 | $45,391 | $70,279 | $76,540 | -----------------------------------------------------------------------------