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Unnecessary commuting should always be included in working hours and expensed.
by kmclean 4y ago
Unnecessary commuting should always be included in working hours and expensed.
- djhaskin987 4y agoAre you going to expense your lunch breakfast dinner and rent as well? You need all those as well in order to work. If you work from home are you going to expense your electricity? Where is the line?
- smetj 4y agoNo, just unnecessary commuting.
- SllX 4y agoYou have discovered another road to feudalism. When people cast wishes I’d like them to imagine they are holding a monkey’s paw whilst doing so.
- cbracken 4y agoJapanese companies often include both a commuting allowance and a housing allowance as distinct components of your pay; neither is counted as income for the purposes of taxation. Meals at company cafeterias are typically not free (though some places are), but typically very reasonable -- e.g. 300 JPY for curry-rice etc.
- fomine3 4y agoNit: That's true for taxation, but counted for social insurance/pension fee. Latter is big for lower income workers.
- BlargMcLarg 4y agoThe talk should be opened either way. Companies are far too eager to put high RE prices / high commuting costs / long commutes onto people, but no one is asking "where is the line?" when the roles are reversed. God forbid we play a few things by ear and see what happens.
- seanmcdirmid 4y agoYou shouldn’t be able to expense things you would need if you weren’t working as well.
- DoingIsLearning 4y ago> If you work from home are you going to expense your electricity? Funnily enough, yes. A very large group of countries have introduced 'teleworking' legislation post-covid, where employers are legally obliged to pay allowances to employees per day of remote work (specifically to offset electricity and internet expenses).
- aspaviento 4y agoActually in Spain you must get a plus by law to cover electricity expenses when working from home.
- toomuchtodo 4y agoYes. My employer (US fintech) gives me a daily meal stipend while working remotely, as well as covers my mobile phone, internet, and a portion to cover my home office. This excludes the annual equipment, desk, and chair stipend I receive. This was all outlined in our remote handbook provided with my offer letter.
- LightG 4y agoCongratulations! Honestly.
- toomuchtodo 4y agoI share so others will advocate for this at scale. It’s not some sort of impossible or unreasonable request.
- chrischen 4y agoIt used to be that meals were tax deductible (which is why Google offered meals) but that got restricted. If a company offers a meal stipend how does that work? Is it just bonus compensation but ear marked for food only?
- toomuchtodo 4y agoDepends on the company and how they're paying it out. I've seen food services where a daily credit is issued to your service account (funded by the org), I've seen it as bonus comp, etc. Whichever mechanism is used is usually some sort of crude optimization attempt for what's best for the org and the employee with whatever services and regulatory framework they're working with (wrt to taxes).
- fomine3 4y agoAre you in Europe?
- toomuchtodo 4y ago
- yosito 4y agoA fair line would be that you're compensated for things you do that you otherwise wouldn't do. You'd still eat, but many companies do compensate their employees for their meals during working hours.
- scollet 4y agoYeah. Businesses owe citizens. People owe nothing to businesses.
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- dehrmann 4y agoWhat about the extra space for a home office?