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Who are these bosses? Managers? You realize they’re just employees too right?

• cs137 4y ago
  I do realize that, at least if we're talking about middle managers. It'd be a stretch to say that executives are "labor" or are "employees" except in a strict legal fashion. Executives don't work for companies; companies work for executives. The reasons for this are sociological rather than economic--in short, so long as executives uphold the interests of the upper class, the other rich people who control the company (important shareholders) will look the other way on their self-dealing. The fact that they are victims of the system does not mean they are innocent of all charges. Almost everyone who is and remains rich or powerful in this world is a crook; that doesn't mean everyone who is not rich or powerful is a saint.
  • imgabe 4y ago
    Good luck with that.
  • captainredbeard 4y ago
    > Almost everyone who is and remains rich or powerful in this world is a crook That’s an opinion.
  • nradov 4y ago
    Nah. Activist shareholders don't look the other way. If they see a profit opportunity then they won't hesitate to execute a leveraged buyout and sack all the senior executives. This has happened many, many times. When it comes to making money, any notion of class loyalty died in the 1980's.
  • meany 4y ago
    It seems that there is a lot of emotion in your assessment because you use sweeping absolutes to describe millions of people. In my experience the world is complex and nuanced. Do you really mean to say all rich people are law breakers ala crooks? When you define rich, are you using a global scale? For instance are most people in the developed world crooks? There are good and bad people in all walks of life, all countries, races, etc. More often than not, when you get to understand the forces that impact people, you realize that what seem like simple decisions from the outside to make the world a better place have unseen negative consequences. On a personal level, I can say my managers try to be good people, although the may not always do the best thing. In my case, my wife has stage 4 cancer and they have been tremendously supportive. Edit: I should probably mention for full transparency I work at Amazon as it is sited in the article.
• briantakita 4y ago
  • imgabe 4y ago
    Sure, it’s just like slavery. Except the part where you get paid and you can leave anytime you want.
    • briantakita 4y ago
      It's a more inclusive version of the company store where one does work for tokens while it's near impractical to be self sufficient & difficult/dangerous to be physically soverign. Even if one lives off the land, the corporations & government groups have polluted & own most of it. One would have to go fully indigenous to move away from the system, but even then there is much violence against the indigenous peoples. Some solutions include gaining leverage over existing systems of control (e.g. management), cooperation with like minded people to form a group for protection (like a prison gang), carving out domains of autonomy from systems of control, or just stop feeding the more oppressive patterns in all aspects of life
      • imgabe 4y ago
        It was never practical to be self sufficient. Hunter gatherers living off the land worked together in tribes. People alone in the wilderness mostly die.
        • briantakita 4y ago
          Sure...I never stated that self-sufficiency meant being alone. Hunter Gathers also had a relatively flat social hierarchy that was family & tribe oriented. The elders & leaders had direct skin in the game. There was no middle management or social abstractions in Hunter Gatherer society. They were healthy, happy, had plenty of game to hunt, managed forests, & had little pollution. There was no large scale wars. They were self sufficient as a community. Now we have multi level hierarchical control systems where the people benefiting have no direct downside to causing harm to other people.
• scollet 4y ago
  They fulfill the same role muscle men. A manager's goal is to enforce submission.