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Why would companies be democratic? That would be an extreme historical rarity

• nocoolnametom 4y ago
  Unions are democratic, employee-run institutions which promote higher involvement of employees in the operations and logistical planning of companies. I'm not referring to Twitter becoming a Co-op, that would indeed be nearly unprecedented.
  • leesec 4y ago
    Well then Elon is openly anti-UAW and for good reasons, go listen to the reasons yourself from his own mouth.
    • user_named 4y ago
      His reason is that they threaten his power. That is all.
      • woojoo666 4y ago
        UAW seems corrupt enough that anybody would be against it
        • jeffwask 4y ago
          Maybe take a more critical look at the sources for all the anti-union propaganda.
        • scollet 4y ago
          You just want to exploit people.
        • scollet 4y ago
          Also I expect better from someone who could be a Satanist.
    • jeffwask 4y ago
      You mean so he can't segregate his factories and have a section known as the "Plantation".
• speedgoose 4y ago
  Why would governments be democratic? That would be an extreme historical rarity
  • mrep 4y ago
    Eh, we vote in the top people but government's are mostly run hierarchal just as companies are and shareholders vote in board members who appoint the ceo who then runs the company hierarchal so I honestly don't see that much difference.
    • zja 4y ago
      Well one difference is that the people who work in the government bureaucracies are still citizens, and are able to vote for or against the leaders that manage them. Workers don’t have a say in who manages the company or how they do it.
      • cagey 4y ago
        > Well one difference is that the people who work in the government bureaucracies are still citizens, and are able to vote for or against the leaders that manage them. While technically true, this seems laughably inaccurate in practice. Government bureaucracies are almost entirely composed of unelected employees. "There are 542 federal offices: President, Vice President, 100 U.S. Senators (two from each state), 435 U.S. Representatives, four delegates to the House of Representatives from U.S. territories and the District of Columbia, and one Resident Commissioner from the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico."[0] "Federal Civilian Employment ... Total, All Areas* 1,869,986"[1] Yes, the latter number includes Dept of Defence civilian employees. Examination of the situation in a state of your choosing is left as an exercise for the reader, however I suspect the ratios for state employees vs elected officeholders will be similar. [0] https://www.fvap.gov/info/about-absentee-voting/elections#:~:text=There%20are%20542%20federal%20offices,the%20Commonwealth%20of%20Puerto%20Rico https://www.fvap.gov/info/about-absentee-voting/elections#:~.... [1] https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/reports-publications/federal-civilian-employment/ https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-docu...
• foobarian 4y ago
  Yeah I find that big Western cos are actually micro-communisms or dictatorships. Tickles me pink to think about it.
  • arethuza 4y ago
    Central planning is definitely a big thing in large companies.
• djbebs 4y ago
  Companies are pretty democratic. It's constituents are the shareholders, not the workers.
• scollet 4y ago
  Why the fuck not