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Elon Musk knows more about manufacturing than anyone alive on planet Earth. How do I know? He said so himself!

CamperBob2 4y ago
Basically he's Trump with twice the IQ. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is in the eye of the beholder, I guess.
- rchaud 4y ago
  For years I thought of him as "Steve Jobs without the charisma" but increasingly the wild Monorail style promises about Mars and Hyperloop are also leading me to think Trump.
  - api 4y ago
    I will always have a spot for him in my respect list for SpaceX. No we don’t have a Mars settlement but what they have accomplished is truly huge. If Starship actually works it will be a new space age. I do suspect we will have a base on the Moon and maybe a little space tourism long before we do anything more than a small not-to-stay trip to Mars. The rocket is only a small part of the tech tree to settle a planet 6mos journey away. The moon is only about three days and there is a daily launch window. That being said I’m also well aware that Gwynne Shotwell and numerous others are at least as responsible. He gets some but by no means all credit. I also give Tesla immense credit for helping tip EVs, though I am less bullish on them by far than SpaceX. They seem to be very different companies.
  - CamperBob2 4y ago
    If he could just stay focused, I have no doubt that he'd make it to Mars. But he evidently can't.
    - paulcole 4y ago
      When you realize his #1 goal is fame and attention, it’s clear that he’s very focused.
    - panick21_ 4y ago
      It not his goal to get to Mars himself. That he could already do quite easly. Getting back would be much harder challanges. But his goal is for many people to go there.
  - panick21_ 4y ago
    Why do people keep talking about Hyperloop? He LITERALLY never promised that. The opposite infact, he said I think this is a great concept and worked on it, but all Im gone do is release a Blue Paper. And then 5 years later people are angry he didnt deliver. I really dont understand why people keep brining this up. And as for Mars, nobody can deny that what Musk is doing with SpaceX is getting us closer to that then we have ever been. I dont think any fan of space flight would disagree.
    - 93po 4y ago
- LoveGracePeace 4y ago
  - CamperBob2 4y ago
    More like, Musk believes the Republican candidate will win the next Presidency. This isn't exactly a stretch given Biden's approval rating and reluctance to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in the last administration. Whoever ends up in the White House, he has a lot of reasons for wanting to appear as if he's on the same side, whether he is or not. He also hasn't exactly had reason to feel respected by the Biden administration, or Democrats in general.
    - systemvoltage 4y ago
      I suspect a lot of Democrats are going to be voting Republican for the very first time. Just like Republicans had the term "RINO"s, we've got the same thing going on. A lot of classic liberals would be labeled today a DINO. The current extremism is real.
sneak 4y ago
Whether this is true or not, nobody has created a new auto manufacturer from scratch that works at scale in a very long time, and doubly so for an EV manufacturer. Literally nobody alive is experienced at this job.
- sudosysgen 4y ago
  That's just completely false. There have been dozens of new car companies in China operating a far greater scale than Tesla, and there are new ones every one-two years
  - panick21_ 4y ago
    What new car comapanies in China opetate at larger scale? I dont know of any. Are you calling Geely or BYD new? And and they are not that much larger kn scale. So please, show me the sources.
    - sudosysgen 4y ago
      BYD and Tesla were founded in the same year... Beyond that, there is also XPeng and NIO, which aren't as large in scale ad Tesla, but are scaling significantly faster than Tesla did and are much much younger and definitely qualify as "at scale". So, clearly, scaling a new car company isn't something Tesla was the only one to do in its era.
      - panick21_ 4y ago
        And BYD is universally agree on a amazingly successful company. Tesla revenue: 53,823 BYD revenue: 32’173 And XPeng and NIO started way later when much of the groundwork for EV was already laid and the government in China had a gigantic push to establish EV in the country. So yeah, the only company that is comparable, BYD is one of the most amazing companies of China and Tesla has done better on global scale.
        sudosysgen 4y ago

Basically he's Trump with twice the IQ. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing is in the eye of the beholder, I guess.

rchaud 4y ago
For years I thought of him as "Steve Jobs without the charisma" but increasingly the wild Monorail style promises about Mars and Hyperloop are also leading me to think Trump.
- api 4y ago
  I will always have a spot for him in my respect list for SpaceX. No we don’t have a Mars settlement but what they have accomplished is truly huge. If Starship actually works it will be a new space age. I do suspect we will have a base on the Moon and maybe a little space tourism long before we do anything more than a small not-to-stay trip to Mars. The rocket is only a small part of the tech tree to settle a planet 6mos journey away. The moon is only about three days and there is a daily launch window. That being said I’m also well aware that Gwynne Shotwell and numerous others are at least as responsible. He gets some but by no means all credit. I also give Tesla immense credit for helping tip EVs, though I am less bullish on them by far than SpaceX. They seem to be very different companies.
- CamperBob2 4y ago
  If he could just stay focused, I have no doubt that he'd make it to Mars. But he evidently can't.
  - paulcole 4y ago
    When you realize his #1 goal is fame and attention, it’s clear that he’s very focused.
  - panick21_ 4y ago
    It not his goal to get to Mars himself. That he could already do quite easly. Getting back would be much harder challanges. But his goal is for many people to go there.
- panick21_ 4y ago
  Why do people keep talking about Hyperloop? He LITERALLY never promised that. The opposite infact, he said I think this is a great concept and worked on it, but all Im gone do is release a Blue Paper. And then 5 years later people are angry he didnt deliver. I really dont understand why people keep brining this up. And as for Mars, nobody can deny that what Musk is doing with SpaceX is getting us closer to that then we have ever been. I dont think any fan of space flight would disagree.
  - 93po 4y ago
LoveGracePeace 4y ago
- CamperBob2 4y ago
  More like, Musk believes the Republican candidate will win the next Presidency. This isn't exactly a stretch given Biden's approval rating and reluctance to hold Republicans accountable for their actions in the last administration. Whoever ends up in the White House, he has a lot of reasons for wanting to appear as if he's on the same side, whether he is or not. He also hasn't exactly had reason to feel respected by the Biden administration, or Democrats in general.
  - systemvoltage 4y ago
    I suspect a lot of Democrats are going to be voting Republican for the very first time. Just like Republicans had the term "RINO"s, we've got the same thing going on. A lot of classic liberals would be labeled today a DINO. The current extremism is real.

sneak 4y ago

Whether this is true or not, nobody has created a new auto manufacturer from scratch that works at scale in a very long time, and doubly so for an EV manufacturer. Literally nobody alive is experienced at this job.

sudosysgen 4y ago
That's just completely false. There have been dozens of new car companies in China operating a far greater scale than Tesla, and there are new ones every one-two years
- panick21_ 4y ago
  What new car comapanies in China opetate at larger scale? I dont know of any. Are you calling Geely or BYD new? And and they are not that much larger kn scale. So please, show me the sources.
  - sudosysgen 4y ago
    BYD and Tesla were founded in the same year... Beyond that, there is also XPeng and NIO, which aren't as large in scale ad Tesla, but are scaling significantly faster than Tesla did and are much much younger and definitely qualify as "at scale". So, clearly, scaling a new car company isn't something Tesla was the only one to do in its era.
    - panick21_ 4y ago
      And BYD is universally agree on a amazingly successful company. Tesla revenue: 53,823 BYD revenue: 32’173 And XPeng and NIO started way later when much of the groundwork for EV was already laid and the government in China had a gigantic push to establish EV in the country. So yeah, the only company that is comparable, BYD is one of the most amazing companies of China and Tesla has done better on global scale.
      - sudosysgen 4y ago