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As an outdoorsy person I just want that damn vaccine to come back. Even if its the weird one that is very similar to what you can currently give to your dog it

As an outdoorsy person I just want that damn vaccine to come back. Even if its the weird one that is very similar to what you can currently give to your dog it would be a lot better than nothing. Thankfully apparently Lyme either has not or is not common yet in the western US. I'm crossing my fingers we get a new vaccine before it does.

Alex3917 4y ago
At this point there are so many common tickborne illnesses, plus many that haven't even been discovered, that I don't see having a vaccine against only lyme as being a huge game changer. I mean don't get me wrong, it would be great, but I don't think it would suddenly make it safe to go morel hunting or whatever while wearing shorts. That said, tick bites are mostly avoidable by following the various best practices that have been established.
- cakeface 4y ago
  Tick bites are not mostly avoidable. It is mostly avoidable to have one on you for > 24 hours by checking constantly. Numbers of ticks have increased the past 2 years in my area of NH. I have gotten them walking from my car to the house. Also if you have animals that are treated with tick medicine they bring the ticks inside and then the tick drops off so you can get them in your house.
  - Vecr 4y ago
    Can you wear a Tyvek suit (the kind with the attached booties) under a Nomex flight suit with packing tape wrapped around the joints where your suit meets your boots and gloves? Spray Nomex rated permethrin on the flight suit, boots, and gloves, of course.
    - kurthr 4y ago
      Yes, but it won't keep you from getting COVID.
  - Alex3917 4y ago
    You should be able to get rid of them near your house though. E.g. by keeping grass trimmed, removing any plants they like, planting persimmon trees to attract opossums, etc.
- Auracle 4y ago
  I can't do my job without risk of tick bites, and even if I did my dog would bring them inside anyways. I took three of them off of me on my car ride home today, though none were attached yet. That said, I've had plenty of deer ticks attached to me over the years and have never had Lyme disease. I kind of get a kick out of hearing about people bringing ticks in to the doctor when they get bit to see if they should be worried. I'm pretty sure my insurance would find a way to kick me off if I did that.
ghaff 4y ago
Pfizer and Valneva are working on one: https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/valneva-and-pfizer-report-positive-phase-2-pediatric-data https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta... While the backlash against Lymerix wasn't really deserved, the story around it is somewhat complicated and it wasn't really a great vaccine. (And Lyme seemed to be less of a significant health risk at the time.) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870557/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870557/

Alex3917 4y ago

At this point there are so many common tickborne illnesses, plus many that haven't even been discovered, that I don't see having a vaccine against only lyme as being a huge game changer. I mean don't get me wrong, it would be great, but I don't think it would suddenly make it safe to go morel hunting or whatever while wearing shorts. That said, tick bites are mostly avoidable by following the various best practices that have been established.

cakeface 4y ago
Tick bites are not mostly avoidable. It is mostly avoidable to have one on you for > 24 hours by checking constantly. Numbers of ticks have increased the past 2 years in my area of NH. I have gotten them walking from my car to the house. Also if you have animals that are treated with tick medicine they bring the ticks inside and then the tick drops off so you can get them in your house.
- Vecr 4y ago
  Can you wear a Tyvek suit (the kind with the attached booties) under a Nomex flight suit with packing tape wrapped around the joints where your suit meets your boots and gloves? Spray Nomex rated permethrin on the flight suit, boots, and gloves, of course.
  - kurthr 4y ago
    Yes, but it won't keep you from getting COVID.
- Alex3917 4y ago
  You should be able to get rid of them near your house though. E.g. by keeping grass trimmed, removing any plants they like, planting persimmon trees to attract opossums, etc.
Auracle 4y ago
I can't do my job without risk of tick bites, and even if I did my dog would bring them inside anyways. I took three of them off of me on my car ride home today, though none were attached yet. That said, I've had plenty of deer ticks attached to me over the years and have never had Lyme disease. I kind of get a kick out of hearing about people bringing ticks in to the doctor when they get bit to see if they should be worried. I'm pretty sure my insurance would find a way to kick me off if I did that.

ghaff 4y ago

Pfizer and Valneva are working on one: https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/valneva-and-pfizer-report-positive-phase-2-pediatric-data https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-deta... While the backlash against Lymerix wasn't really deserved, the story around it is somewhat complicated and it wasn't really a great vaccine. (And Lyme seemed to be less of a significant health risk at the time.) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870557/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2870557/