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I think this is least of the worries. WaPO has extreme left bias which while reporting the truth, omission of important facts as they see fit for their readersh

I think this is least of the worries. WaPO has extreme left bias which while reporting the truth, omission of important facts as they see fit for their readership. HN’s left bias matches WaPO in perfect resonance. So, it’s difficult to even discuss it here.

cityzen 4y ago
Show me an example of “extreme left bias” on WaPo…
- Tostino 4y ago
  For real, I don't think OP understands the term. Classically liberal is right wing, not left.
  - RobertWHurst 4y ago
    Classical liberal is only right wing if you slide left so hard you break the overton window.
    - beepbooptheory 4y ago
      Isn't this kind of misunderstanding what the overton window is? The window doesn't pay attention to the content of ideologies per se, just where a culture's sentiments gravitate towards. It doesn't in itself define political beliefs. At some point you need to actually care about principles!
    - robertlagrant 4y ago
      It's right wing in the sense of individualism vs collectivism.
lamontcg 4y ago
As someone with an actual "extreme left bias" claiming the WaPo is on the "extreme left" is hilarious. Using American political terms, I'd put the NYT as having a centrist Democrat bias, the WaPo as having a centrist Republican position and the WSJ having a Republican bias. All of them are pro-capitalist and different wings of the neoliberal party and really right wing in the way the rest of the world thinks about politics. I don't even understand this world where people can accuse the WaPo of being far left. Yeah, they shat all over Trump, but that just reflects how far Trump went completely off the reservation. And it created the surreal situation where every other week I was agreeing with something that Bill Kristol said. The fact that Trumpers feel the need to scream about how the WaPo is a bunch of communists really shows how intellectually bankrupt the whole thing is.
- systemvoltage 4y ago
  I'm going to ignore Trump comments because those are irrelevant here. Quick Google search reveals several sources claiming Left bias. My personal opinion is that it is left of NYT. NYT opinion pieces are extreme left while the news are center-left. https://adfontesmedia.com/washington-post-bias-and-reliability/ https://adfontesmedia.com/washington-post-bias-and-reliabili... https://www.allsides.com/news-source/washington-post-media-bias https://www.allsides.com/news-source/washington-post-media-b... Here is a the whole chart: https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart > I don't even understand this world where people can accuse the WaPo of being far left. Recommend exploring more areas of the political spectrum. Not a single source claiming WaPo is center-right. If you can find a better source than your own delusion, I'd love to see!
  - trs8080 4y ago
    > Quick Google search reveals several sources claiming Left bias Why are these sources authoritative? Why is the chart you linked authoritative? > NYT opinion pieces are extreme left So when they published an op-ed by Tom Cotton calling for the mobilization of the military against American citizens, that was "extreme left"? > Not a single source claiming WaPo is center-right Not a single source /of your sources/.
    - robertlagrant 4y ago
      > Not a single source /of your sources/. There's no point saying this. Just post better sources if you have them.
  - lamontcg 4y ago
    You have no idea what "extreme left" means. And the "allsides" chart with Jacobin lumped in with the NYT and MSNBC is hilariously bad. Allsides itself was formed by a former Republican which is where its bias lies.
    - the_only_law 4y ago

cityzen 4y ago

Show me an example of “extreme left bias” on WaPo…

Tostino 4y ago
For real, I don't think OP understands the term. Classically liberal is right wing, not left.
- RobertWHurst 4y ago
  Classical liberal is only right wing if you slide left so hard you break the overton window.
  - beepbooptheory 4y ago
    Isn't this kind of misunderstanding what the overton window is? The window doesn't pay attention to the content of ideologies per se, just where a culture's sentiments gravitate towards. It doesn't in itself define political beliefs. At some point you need to actually care about principles!
  - robertlagrant 4y ago
    It's right wing in the sense of individualism vs collectivism.

lamontcg 4y ago

As someone with an actual "extreme left bias" claiming the WaPo is on the "extreme left" is hilarious. Using American political terms, I'd put the NYT as having a centrist Democrat bias, the WaPo as having a centrist Republican position and the WSJ having a Republican bias. All of them are pro-capitalist and different wings of the neoliberal party and really right wing in the way the rest of the world thinks about politics. I don't even understand this world where people can accuse the WaPo of being far left. Yeah, they shat all over Trump, but that just reflects how far Trump went completely off the reservation. And it created the surreal situation where every other week I was agreeing with something that Bill Kristol said. The fact that Trumpers feel the need to scream about how the WaPo is a bunch of communists really shows how intellectually bankrupt the whole thing is.

systemvoltage 4y ago
I'm going to ignore Trump comments because those are irrelevant here. Quick Google search reveals several sources claiming Left bias. My personal opinion is that it is left of NYT. NYT opinion pieces are extreme left while the news are center-left. https://adfontesmedia.com/washington-post-bias-and-reliability/ https://adfontesmedia.com/washington-post-bias-and-reliabili... https://www.allsides.com/news-source/washington-post-media-bias https://www.allsides.com/news-source/washington-post-media-b... Here is a the whole chart: https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart > I don't even understand this world where people can accuse the WaPo of being far left. Recommend exploring more areas of the political spectrum. Not a single source claiming WaPo is center-right. If you can find a better source than your own delusion, I'd love to see!
- trs8080 4y ago
  > Quick Google search reveals several sources claiming Left bias Why are these sources authoritative? Why is the chart you linked authoritative? > NYT opinion pieces are extreme left So when they published an op-ed by Tom Cotton calling for the mobilization of the military against American citizens, that was "extreme left"? > Not a single source claiming WaPo is center-right Not a single source /of your sources/.
  - robertlagrant 4y ago
    > Not a single source /of your sources/. There's no point saying this. Just post better sources if you have them.
- lamontcg 4y ago
  You have no idea what "extreme left" means. And the "allsides" chart with Jacobin lumped in with the NYT and MSNBC is hilariously bad. Allsides itself was formed by a former Republican which is where its bias lies.
  - the_only_law 4y ago