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> In a bar that plays soccer games, 3% are women. You are there to watch a game not flirt, who cares about percentage of women? Also in most of europe the perc

> In a bar that plays soccer games, 3% are women. You are there to watch a game not flirt, who cares about percentage of women? Also in most of europe the percentage is much larger (for big games), same as superbowl parties in america have more than 3% women. > In a dancing class of bachata, ~75% are women. Yes every bachata class in the planet has 75% women. Also there to dance, not to flirt. > Something like this is my opinion https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31750692 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31750692 Those are insanely varied, and vague things though. Signifiers of social status can get vain people interested but that does not realte to long term relationships or success in dating. Attracting gold diggers is not a superpower, and honestly a pretty undesireble thing to want anyway. It'd be like writting a guide into how to attract Pick Up artists as a woman, why would anyone want that. If anything the list being so long proves the 5% thing cannot possibly be true, you can do the math, but if people happen in a regular bellcurve, being top x% of something, across multiple variables exponentially decreases the chance of finding anyone. Therefore someone close even to top 5% in even half of those categories would be 0.001% of the human population. In other words, women like a varied number of things, men do too, and in that complicated mix of wants, needs and preferences dating is a varied exercise that leads to finding suitable partners, which happens for most people.

ddorian43 4y ago
I'm sorry but this conversation is in vain. Feel free to say the last word. > Also there to dance, not to flirt. Because you are not hot enough. > Yes every bachata class in the planet has 75% women. Also there to dance, not to flirt. I'm pretty certain of my opinions on only things that I have 5+ years experience in (bachata/salsa, kickboxing, programming, few other personal things). > that does not realte to long term relationships or success in dating I was never speaking of long term relationship success. I was saying what woman "want".
- Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
  > Because you are not hot enough. Yes women are unable to say no if you are hot enough. Its a defect they have from birth. You said you are pretty certain in things you have 5+ years of exp in, so how come you are sharing your opinion on what women want? Shoouldn't you at least get an internship on that before sharing your "knowledge" ? > I'm pretty certain of my opinions on only things that I have 5+ years experience in Google sampling bias, confirmation bias, empirical data != research and "how to not confuse my personal experience with reality". I knew most people didn't know that correlation != causation but I wasn't expecting people to not know their bachata class might not represent 8 billion peoples experience... > I was saying what woman "want". And you would be wrong about that, because your research is you confirmation bias and not any actual study.
  - ddorian43 4y ago
    I was never saying I was the top 5%. > how come you are sharing your opinion on what women want? Shoouldn't you at least get an internship on that before sharing your "knowledge" ? And what position or school is that? gender studies? Even in psychology, you'll need a phd and some years of experience to really know stuff. > And you would be wrong about that, because your research is you confirmation bias and not any actual study. I never researched and never wrote that I researched. Just observed. This is your/our problem. We spend too much time here arguing. The way you reply and what you write, you remind me of 2 memes: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ackchyually-actually-guy https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ackchyually-actually-guy and https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/iq-bell-curve-midwit https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/iq-bell-curve-midwit.
    - Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
      > I was never saying I was the top 5%. I could have guessed that > And what position or school is that? Talking to a woman who isn't your mum is usually a good first step. > I never researched and never wrote that I researched. Yet you claimed as universal truth that women fight tooth and nail for the top 5% of men. Why not just say "In my limited, biased and provably wrong opinion I think dating looks like this". You said you have a background in CS right? Cool, you are using a training set of 2005 songs and now you are trying to analyse all the music in the world. Your training set is insufficent, personal anecdotes are not data, and there is enough noise on the internet for you to add more pollution on men/women dynamics.
      - ddorian43 4y ago
        That "actually" meme was pretty funny though.
        Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
        In 2012? Maybe

ddorian43 4y ago

I'm sorry but this conversation is in vain. Feel free to say the last word. > Also there to dance, not to flirt. Because you are not hot enough. > Yes every bachata class in the planet has 75% women. Also there to dance, not to flirt. I'm pretty certain of my opinions on only things that I have 5+ years experience in (bachata/salsa, kickboxing, programming, few other personal things). > that does not realte to long term relationships or success in dating I was never speaking of long term relationship success. I was saying what woman "want".

Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
> Because you are not hot enough. Yes women are unable to say no if you are hot enough. Its a defect they have from birth. You said you are pretty certain in things you have 5+ years of exp in, so how come you are sharing your opinion on what women want? Shoouldn't you at least get an internship on that before sharing your "knowledge" ? > I'm pretty certain of my opinions on only things that I have 5+ years experience in Google sampling bias, confirmation bias, empirical data != research and "how to not confuse my personal experience with reality". I knew most people didn't know that correlation != causation but I wasn't expecting people to not know their bachata class might not represent 8 billion peoples experience... > I was saying what woman "want". And you would be wrong about that, because your research is you confirmation bias and not any actual study.
- ddorian43 4y ago
  I was never saying I was the top 5%. > how come you are sharing your opinion on what women want? Shoouldn't you at least get an internship on that before sharing your "knowledge" ? And what position or school is that? gender studies? Even in psychology, you'll need a phd and some years of experience to really know stuff. > And you would be wrong about that, because your research is you confirmation bias and not any actual study. I never researched and never wrote that I researched. Just observed. This is your/our problem. We spend too much time here arguing. The way you reply and what you write, you remind me of 2 memes: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ackchyually-actually-guy https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/ackchyually-actually-guy and https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/iq-bell-curve-midwit https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/iq-bell-curve-midwit.
  - Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
    > I was never saying I was the top 5%. I could have guessed that > And what position or school is that? Talking to a woman who isn't your mum is usually a good first step. > I never researched and never wrote that I researched. Yet you claimed as universal truth that women fight tooth and nail for the top 5% of men. Why not just say "In my limited, biased and provably wrong opinion I think dating looks like this". You said you have a background in CS right? Cool, you are using a training set of 2005 songs and now you are trying to analyse all the music in the world. Your training set is insufficent, personal anecdotes are not data, and there is enough noise on the internet for you to add more pollution on men/women dynamics.
    - ddorian43 4y ago
      That "actually" meme was pretty funny though.
      - Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
        In 2012? Maybe