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Can you imagine what it would have looked like if dating apps existed in the war ravaged nations of Eurasia post World War II? Ladies would have been fighting t

Can you imagine what it would have looked like if dating apps existed in the war ravaged nations of Eurasia post World War II? Ladies would have been fighting tooth and nail for a good man, because they were hard to find after the world went to war with itself.

ddorian43 4y ago
- Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
  This is not true, not even remotely
  - ddorian43 4y ago
    Please be more explicit. Do you need to be top 1%? Or?
    - Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
      > Or? The 5% thing is entirely unsupported by any evidence whatsoever. You can just look outside your window and see the thousands of couples that exist, most of whom do not include a "top 5% man". The theory of hypergamy, and the idea that is so much worse in the digital age, is unsupported by facts. For exampple Tinder has a hidden rating for each person, so lets say you are an average girl and Tinder has rated you as a 5/10. You can probably only see men that Tinder has rated 4-6. Even if you wanted to go for a "top 5%" man, algorithmically he would not even show in your feed. Humans are biologically programmed to find suitable partners, we value many things beyond looks or social status and the basis of relationships is varied, complicated and researched to death. There is no gaggle of desperate women running after a succesful hot man in a suit who keeps denying their advances. This is simply not happening
      - shnobloos22 4y ago
        Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
        What does that prove? There are tons of celebrity gossip about super attractive people who don't sleep with each other anymore. Dead bedrooms and non working partner dynamics has nothing to do with the silly "women only want top 5% of men". Some of those men are in dead bedroom situations, thus if anything it furthers my point.
      - ddorian43 4y ago
        > There is no gaggle of desperate women running after a succesful hot man in a suit who keeps denying their advances. This is simply not happening Go to a place where there are a lot of women. The simplest example is dancing class(es). Become the top 5% guy there (not 5% in dancing, top 5% male in general) and see. The same thing by being top 5% in your high school or university.
        Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
        > Go to a place where there are a lot of women Literally anywhere, they are 50% of the world population > The simplest example is dancing class(es In what sitcom universe is dancing classes the simplest example of a place to find women? Also not a dating place, they are there to learn to dance. > Become the top 5% guy there (not 5% in dancing, top 5% male in general) and see. Do you need a card? Or is this one of those "if you are 6ft tall and rich women swoon over you like a disney movie" spiel? I have danced a lot and trust me, people who go in front of others and can dance, even if they are average, get way more attention than pretty boys who sit standing still in the back acting like they are too cool. Courage, getting out there, skill, practice, being fun to be around, are skills people value much more than looks. Btw see how I said people all the time and not women, because those skills work beyond dating, even if they certainly work for dating.
        4y ago
- KronisLV 4y ago
  This is getting voted down, but while the percentage is debatable, it still feels somewhat true (in a limited set of contexts). Online dating (which often gets mentioned in regards to this) gives people a sense of choice which they wouldn't necessarily get to such a degree when dating more "organically", thus it becomes easy to compare people against one another in a standardized manner and go for the ones you find to be the most appealing, which you wouldn't necessarily otherwise even meet in person. Similarly, being someone who's interesting and fun in person might also naturally catch others' attention - being the person with interesting stories, nice jokes and just someone who feels fun to be around and is confident. If you are close to "average", this might also lead to you comparing yourself against others to a degree that is similar to the one found in social media, the effects of which on one's sense of self-worth aren't necessarily all that positive, unless they make you strive to improve yourself. People suggest that you really should socialize outside of online dating and not get too caught up in it - both to improve your social skills, gain actual friends and acquaintances, as well as become more comfortable with approaching people in the romantic context, should the opportunity present itself. Personally, I've largely resigned myself from online dating and much of social media, though perhaps that's because of my introverted nature. Regardless, actually visiting other countries or even just participating in interest groups/events has been nice, as has been expanding my social circle - over the years, it has also lead to a relationship or two.
  - sytelus 4y ago
    There was a very detailed article that used data collected in Tinder. It showed something like 80% of women fought for 20% of top men and other way around. This basically meant that large number of men are being left out cold in dating scene. This pattern is across all online dating causing steep rise in men who are alone without partners in their 30s. However, there will likely no impact on birth rates significantly because women ultimately bear children for multiple highly desirable men but from small pool (either through multiple marriages or staying single). This is not very different from times before agriculture as DNA analysis shows significant portion of men didn't had offspring as more powerful men had access to larger than their fair share of women. The online dating has made the game as fierce again but this time voluntarily from both genders.
- yellow_lead 4y ago
  By definition?
  - ddorian43 4y ago
    Writing the definition hurts peoples feelings and they downvote. Humans haven't evolved a lot in the last 200K years. But doing the opposite of: being short, poor (not stocks poor, you can't drive a stock), clueless of social interaction, being fat, no muscle, not being fun, reading hacker news, having low social status, being unfunny, being needy, being `unsexy`, bad fashion, being bald and not owning it, etc.
whichfawkes 4y ago
Please don't go starting a war, mmk?
screye 4y ago
> Ladies would have been fighting tooth and nail for a good man They probably already were. I have heard factoids that the emphasis on heavy makeup and dressing up among Eastern European women was as a result of the dearth of eligible young men post WW2.

ddorian43 4y ago

Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
This is not true, not even remotely
- ddorian43 4y ago
  Please be more explicit. Do you need to be top 1%? Or?
  - Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
    > Or? The 5% thing is entirely unsupported by any evidence whatsoever. You can just look outside your window and see the thousands of couples that exist, most of whom do not include a "top 5% man". The theory of hypergamy, and the idea that is so much worse in the digital age, is unsupported by facts. For exampple Tinder has a hidden rating for each person, so lets say you are an average girl and Tinder has rated you as a 5/10. You can probably only see men that Tinder has rated 4-6. Even if you wanted to go for a "top 5%" man, algorithmically he would not even show in your feed. Humans are biologically programmed to find suitable partners, we value many things beyond looks or social status and the basis of relationships is varied, complicated and researched to death. There is no gaggle of desperate women running after a succesful hot man in a suit who keeps denying their advances. This is simply not happening
    - shnobloos22 4y ago
      - Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
        What does that prove? There are tons of celebrity gossip about super attractive people who don't sleep with each other anymore. Dead bedrooms and non working partner dynamics has nothing to do with the silly "women only want top 5% of men". Some of those men are in dead bedroom situations, thus if anything it furthers my point.
    - ddorian43 4y ago
      > There is no gaggle of desperate women running after a succesful hot man in a suit who keeps denying their advances. This is simply not happening Go to a place where there are a lot of women. The simplest example is dancing class(es). Become the top 5% guy there (not 5% in dancing, top 5% male in general) and see. The same thing by being top 5% in your high school or university.
      - Arkhaine_kupo 4y ago
        > Go to a place where there are a lot of women Literally anywhere, they are 50% of the world population > The simplest example is dancing class(es In what sitcom universe is dancing classes the simplest example of a place to find women? Also not a dating place, they are there to learn to dance. > Become the top 5% guy there (not 5% in dancing, top 5% male in general) and see. Do you need a card? Or is this one of those "if you are 6ft tall and rich women swoon over you like a disney movie" spiel? I have danced a lot and trust me, people who go in front of others and can dance, even if they are average, get way more attention than pretty boys who sit standing still in the back acting like they are too cool. Courage, getting out there, skill, practice, being fun to be around, are skills people value much more than looks. Btw see how I said people all the time and not women, because those skills work beyond dating, even if they certainly work for dating.
        4y ago
KronisLV 4y ago
This is getting voted down, but while the percentage is debatable, it still feels somewhat true (in a limited set of contexts). Online dating (which often gets mentioned in regards to this) gives people a sense of choice which they wouldn't necessarily get to such a degree when dating more "organically", thus it becomes easy to compare people against one another in a standardized manner and go for the ones you find to be the most appealing, which you wouldn't necessarily otherwise even meet in person. Similarly, being someone who's interesting and fun in person might also naturally catch others' attention - being the person with interesting stories, nice jokes and just someone who feels fun to be around and is confident. If you are close to "average", this might also lead to you comparing yourself against others to a degree that is similar to the one found in social media, the effects of which on one's sense of self-worth aren't necessarily all that positive, unless they make you strive to improve yourself. People suggest that you really should socialize outside of online dating and not get too caught up in it - both to improve your social skills, gain actual friends and acquaintances, as well as become more comfortable with approaching people in the romantic context, should the opportunity present itself. Personally, I've largely resigned myself from online dating and much of social media, though perhaps that's because of my introverted nature. Regardless, actually visiting other countries or even just participating in interest groups/events has been nice, as has been expanding my social circle - over the years, it has also lead to a relationship or two.
- sytelus 4y ago
  There was a very detailed article that used data collected in Tinder. It showed something like 80% of women fought for 20% of top men and other way around. This basically meant that large number of men are being left out cold in dating scene. This pattern is across all online dating causing steep rise in men who are alone without partners in their 30s. However, there will likely no impact on birth rates significantly because women ultimately bear children for multiple highly desirable men but from small pool (either through multiple marriages or staying single). This is not very different from times before agriculture as DNA analysis shows significant portion of men didn't had offspring as more powerful men had access to larger than their fair share of women. The online dating has made the game as fierce again but this time voluntarily from both genders.
yellow_lead 4y ago
By definition?
- ddorian43 4y ago
  Writing the definition hurts peoples feelings and they downvote. Humans haven't evolved a lot in the last 200K years. But doing the opposite of: being short, poor (not stocks poor, you can't drive a stock), clueless of social interaction, being fat, no muscle, not being fun, reading hacker news, having low social status, being unfunny, being needy, being `unsexy`, bad fashion, being bald and not owning it, etc.

whichfawkes 4y ago

Please don't go starting a war, mmk?

screye 4y ago

> Ladies would have been fighting tooth and nail for a good man They probably already were. I have heard factoids that the emphasis on heavy makeup and dressing up among Eastern European women was as a result of the dearth of eligible young men post WW2.