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The desalination plant solutions a "let's do both." https://californiaglobe.com/articles/california-coastal-commission-rejects-huntington-beach-desalination-pla
by vwoolf 4y ago
The desalination plant solutions a "let's do both." https://californiaglobe.com/articles/california-coastal-commission-rejects-huntington-beach-desalination-plant-proposal/ https://californiaglobe.com/articles/california-coastal-comm...
Charge market prices for water and build desalination. Create abundance.
- kortilla 4y agoThat’s another form of the “both sides” type of fallacy. Desalination is an extreme unnecessary compromise to deal with obscene waste in agriculture.
- foolfoolz 4y agothe largest desalination plant in the u. s. can serve 110,000 homes. we would need 30 of them to make a significant dent in just the LA area. we will all be long dead before 30 new desalination plants are operational in california
- willcipriano 4y agoIdea I've had, solar power a desalination plant, pumping the water into a pumped storage reservoir, then water crops from it at night to reduce evaporation and produce energy when the sun isn't shining.
- prawn 4y agoIs there an issue with trying to locate solar (often in flat areas) alongside pumped storage (would that be in a mountainous or at least hilly area)?
- s0rce 4y agoWho pays for it though? Market price is way below desalination price.
- macintux 4y agoDesalination requires energy and creates waste. Perhaps we should live within our means instead.
- Yoofie 4y ago> Desalination requires energy and creates waste. This is true for basically every human endeavor.
- coryrc 4y agoDams literally generate energy and provide water consistently.
- obmelvin 4y agoDo dams provide water? Don't they use the water provided by a body of water?
- dredmorbius 4y agoBy controlling and regulating water flow, dams make available more water than would be available from an unregulated water flow. As noted by others, this isn't entirely cost-free, and there are ecological impacts. Still, on net, many dams do provide real benefits.
- selectodude 4y agoAnd lay waste to entire river ecosystems.
- jshen 4y agoYou are advocating for famine and war.
- adrianN 4y agoOr they're advocating for eating less water intensive things. If you for example grow wheat instead of grapes or almonds your likely reduce global famine a little bit.
- cplusplusfellow 4y agoIf only people understood this concept. In my home town city council are bickering about whether to allow additional density to be build on already commercially zoned lots based on whether they force 10 or 12% if the units to be “affordable.” They are bickering over whether 40 units of a building might have a net decreased rent of $200 a month and instead may get 0 units built instead of 400. The 400 units would likely reduce the rent in the area by more than $200. Create abundance and then let the market set the price and be happy.
- pjc50 4y agoIf you charge both the agricultural and residential users the same price, the agricultural ones go out of business. That may well be necessary, but they're politically well connected.