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quit in terms of US is importing, but the EU is expected to stay strong ideologically. Look. We all understand that the reaction to the war activistic and ideo

quit in terms of US is importing, but the EU is expected to stay strong ideologically. Look. We all understand that the reaction to the war activistic and ideological. The more time will pass, the more politics will move towards Realpolitik.

bpodgursky 4y ago
> United States Imports from Russia of Fertilizers was US$1.28 Billion during 2021 [1] > Using data on ship movements, real-time tracking of gas flows through pipelines and estimates based on historical monthly trade, the researchers reckoned Germany alone paid Russia about 9.1 billion euros for fossil fuel deliveries — mostly natural gas — in the first two months of the war. [2] Let's not pretend these are comparable numbers. It's not like the US is about to run out of food anyway. We're a massive exporter. The goal is to boost US food production enough that the 3rd world doesn't starve to death (and if food prices go through the roof, it also helps Russia). Frankly, if we were being ruthless about it, the US might be financially BETTER off if there was a worldwide grain shortage. We're still trying to stop it. Germany is importing Russian natural gas to avoid turning on nuclear power plants for ideological reasons. [1] https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports/russia/fertilizers https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports/russia/fe... [2] https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-europe-germany-484fdfeecf86483356f5f003b77e30da https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-europe-ge...
- stefan_ 4y ago
  Nuclear power stations that run with Russian fuel? Good try. (Not to mention they don't just "turn on".)
  - gambiting 4y ago
    Other countries can provide fuel. Multiple countries have already signed contracts with American and French companies to manufacture fuel for their(Soviet designed) reactors. It's already happening. Also a fully fueled reactor can run for a long time before it needs refueling. Germany doesn't want to turn its reactors on for like the above poster said - ideological reasons. And yeah there is a startup process, but they could have been spun up by now since the start of this war.

bpodgursky 4y ago

> United States Imports from Russia of Fertilizers was US$1.28 Billion during 2021 [1] > Using data on ship movements, real-time tracking of gas flows through pipelines and estimates based on historical monthly trade, the researchers reckoned Germany alone paid Russia about 9.1 billion euros for fossil fuel deliveries — mostly natural gas — in the first two months of the war. [2] Let's not pretend these are comparable numbers. It's not like the US is about to run out of food anyway. We're a massive exporter. The goal is to boost US food production enough that the 3rd world doesn't starve to death (and if food prices go through the roof, it also helps Russia). Frankly, if we were being ruthless about it, the US might be financially BETTER off if there was a worldwide grain shortage. We're still trying to stop it. Germany is importing Russian natural gas to avoid turning on nuclear power plants for ideological reasons. [1] https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports/russia/fertilizers https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/imports/russia/fe... [2] https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-europe-germany-484fdfeecf86483356f5f003b77e30da https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-business-europe-ge...

stefan_ 4y ago
Nuclear power stations that run with Russian fuel? Good try. (Not to mention they don't just "turn on".)
- gambiting 4y ago
  Other countries can provide fuel. Multiple countries have already signed contracts with American and French companies to manufacture fuel for their(Soviet designed) reactors. It's already happening. Also a fully fueled reactor can run for a long time before it needs refueling. Germany doesn't want to turn its reactors on for like the above poster said - ideological reasons. And yeah there is a startup process, but they could have been spun up by now since the start of this war.