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I second the series, it’s amazing (for space nerds). Produced by the same guy who did the Battlestar Galactica reboot which was also amazing. I think the thing

I second the series, it’s amazing (for space nerds). Produced by the same guy who did the Battlestar Galactica reboot which was also amazing. I think the thing about For All Mankind that makes me sad is how it conveys the potential that the 60s really offered but failed to deliver on, in terms of progressivism, equal rights, womens roles in the workplace. Of course it’s a work of fiction, but science fiction has always been a mechanism for exploring different socio-political evolutions and it makes me feel like we missed something important that we’re only just on the cusp of today. Anyway, my 2c

dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago
What in the epic hell are you on about? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement
- ceejayoz 4y ago
  The first Black astronaut wasn't until 1983. Same for women. The show portrays a very different scenario as part of its plot points.
- Bud 4y ago
  You might want to review the part about how most of the civil rights movement's goals were foiled or rolled back, and someone shot all the major figures, and then Reagan happened and we had another half-century of horrific racism.
  - dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago
    - wolverine876 4y ago
      > you need to let this Russia shit go Some people certainly would like to silence any discussion of it, and they have every argument in the book. Disdain / contempt are a popular tactic.
      - dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago
        wolverine876 4y ago
        It's just trolling, an attempt to disrupt others. It produces nothing for our society, which is falling apart. You can do better! We need you.
        dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago
        It's a bit more than trolling at this point.
    - ceejayoz 4y ago
      > The tv show is make believe. Your complaint is that it's not a documentary?
      - dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago
        What? Read the thread. I'm talking about the AP take on it. It's a cool story. Just dont prop it up as some kind of self defeati g example how how bad we fucked up because the reality is we did pretty fuckin well.
  - wolverine876 4y ago
    > most of the civil rights movement's goals were foiled or rolled back Not everything is perfect at all - there are very serious problems - but the country (and world) is transformed since before the Civil Rights Movement, and civil rights have spread to others (LGBTQ+ and disabled people, for example). It's the people against civil rights who want you to quit, to believe you are powerless, that it is all for nothing. Maybe they want to believe it too! :)
    - freeflight 4y ago
      > civil rights have spread to others (LGBTQ+ and disabled people, for example) That only started in the last two decades and in many places it's still a far cry away from being properly established.
      - wolverine876 4y ago
        > That only started in the last two decades Plenty happened in the four decades before that. Look up Stonewall, for example. > it's still a far cry away from being properly established That doesn't mean nothing happened. People can get married, and most of the country supports that!
- arnaudsm 4y ago
  I don't want to spoil, but the show displays a much faster social progress than our reality, and explains it with a rich political context.
  - deleted 4y ago
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iso1631 4y ago
Before BSG, Moore was also heavily involved in DS9 from season 3 onwards, and before that was responsible for the arcs in TNG (the whole Worf/Duras/Gowron arc)
- dotancohen 4y ago
  DS9, maybe, not TNG?
  - munchler 4y ago
    Moore co-wrote 27 episodes of TNG, including the series finale, and two of the TNG films. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ronald_D._Moore#Star_Trek https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ronald_D._Moore#Star_Tr...
    - iso1631 4y ago
      Pretty much every episode Worf got character growth -- growth that was referred back to in later episodes, which was amazing for the late 80s and early 90s.

dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago

What in the epic hell are you on about? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_rights_movement

ceejayoz 4y ago
The first Black astronaut wasn't until 1983. Same for women. The show portrays a very different scenario as part of its plot points.
Bud 4y ago
You might want to review the part about how most of the civil rights movement's goals were foiled or rolled back, and someone shot all the major figures, and then Reagan happened and we had another half-century of horrific racism.
- dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago
  - wolverine876 4y ago
    > you need to let this Russia shit go Some people certainly would like to silence any discussion of it, and they have every argument in the book. Disdain / contempt are a popular tactic.
    - dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago
      - wolverine876 4y ago
        It's just trolling, an attempt to disrupt others. It produces nothing for our society, which is falling apart. You can do better! We need you.
        dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago
        It's a bit more than trolling at this point.
  - ceejayoz 4y ago
    > The tv show is make believe. Your complaint is that it's not a documentary?
    - dhzhzjsbevs 4y ago
      What? Read the thread. I'm talking about the AP take on it. It's a cool story. Just dont prop it up as some kind of self defeati g example how how bad we fucked up because the reality is we did pretty fuckin well.
- wolverine876 4y ago
  > most of the civil rights movement's goals were foiled or rolled back Not everything is perfect at all - there are very serious problems - but the country (and world) is transformed since before the Civil Rights Movement, and civil rights have spread to others (LGBTQ+ and disabled people, for example). It's the people against civil rights who want you to quit, to believe you are powerless, that it is all for nothing. Maybe they want to believe it too! :)
  - freeflight 4y ago
    > civil rights have spread to others (LGBTQ+ and disabled people, for example) That only started in the last two decades and in many places it's still a far cry away from being properly established.
    - wolverine876 4y ago
      > That only started in the last two decades Plenty happened in the four decades before that. Look up Stonewall, for example. > it's still a far cry away from being properly established That doesn't mean nothing happened. People can get married, and most of the country supports that!
arnaudsm 4y ago
I don't want to spoil, but the show displays a much faster social progress than our reality, and explains it with a rich political context.
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]

iso1631 4y ago

Before BSG, Moore was also heavily involved in DS9 from season 3 onwards, and before that was responsible for the arcs in TNG (the whole Worf/Duras/Gowron arc)

dotancohen 4y ago
DS9, maybe, not TNG?
- munchler 4y ago
  Moore co-wrote 27 episodes of TNG, including the series finale, and two of the TNG films. https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ronald_D._Moore#Star_Trek https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ronald_D._Moore#Star_Tr...
  - iso1631 4y ago
    Pretty much every episode Worf got character growth -- growth that was referred back to in later episodes, which was amazing for the late 80s and early 90s.