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I very much doubt many scottish voters will pay too much attention to the economics. Are constitutional referendums ever really about economics? Brexit certain
by dubeye 4y ago
I very much doubt many scottish voters will pay too much attention to the economics.
Are constitutional referendums ever really about economics? Brexit certainly wasn't
- swarnie 4y agoSome really basic questions will need to be answered. 1) What currecny are you using? 2) Where is your central bank? 3) What debt will you be departing with? 4) What cuts will be required when you can no longer take 32bn a year via the Barnett formula? Just simple, fundamental things really.
- dubeye 4y agoThey need to be answered at some point, but not necessarily before the referendum. Not saying it's a best way to do it, but it's the most likely way. Brexit for example, was a referendum on a very broad question, the specifics were worked out afterwards. But most likely there will be a transition period, where monetary sovereignty is sacrificed in the short term, to allow central bank to be set up and votes held on various questions including some you list.
- swarnie 4y ago> Vote for this! > What is it? > We dont know yet! Doesn't seem like a brilliant idea from where i'm sat. I think the comparison to Brexit will come up a lot, arguing for a similar process with six years of hindsight is... questionable....
- zarzavat 4y agoThe aftermath of the Brexit referendum was horrendous precisely because there were several groups campaigning for mutually contradictory visions of Brexit. A referendum whereby the nature of the thing being voted on is only explained afterwards is not democratic, it is merely an illusion of democracy.
- dubeye 4y agoYes and the scottish aftermath will also be horrendous as many contradictory visions exist of indy too. But how else to do it? You can't agree prior to the vote how indy will look exactly, for the very same reason.
- petesergeant 4y ago> They need to be answered at some point, but not necessarily before the referendum It would be well within Westminster's powers to say "sure, draw up a costed budget first and answer the big questions, get OBR sign-off, and we're good to go!"
- dubeye 4y agoIt's also with westminsters powers to just ignore SNP requests for a ref. But at some point, if UK wants to maintain it's pretence of being a defender of sovreignty and democracy, then it will need to allow scotland to hold a second referendum on terms of it's own devising. Not westminsters.
- petesergeant 4y agoI think the UK can easily maintain this by saying "once every 25 years seems reasonable", and nobody internationally will bat an eyelid.
- dubeye 4y agoWhat is reasonable depends on context. If 80% of scottish voters argue 15 years (for eg) is reasonable, what makes Westminsters 25 number more reasonable? I would agree 10 years is pushing it .
- stoneman24 4y agoAdditional difficult questions that need to determined before a final vote. 5) exact geographic boundaries for oil/gas fields 6) exact rights on fishing areas 7) how to split the financial assets of the UK 8) how trade deals continue / stop Scotland has approx 10% of the UK population, should that be used as the criteria for the separation ? Should we get 10% of the assets held by the Bank of England
- swarnie 4y agoDont forget the nuke bases up there... Not something you can move over night im afraid.
- afandian 4y agoDepends how you look at it. Someone got a nice bonus...
- the_gipsy 4y agoThe three pillars of secessions are ethnicity/culture, improvement of representation, and money.