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The problem that I have with the all electric movement is that all of the expectations don't match up with the numbers. For instance, a new Ford Lightning can

The problem that I have with the all electric movement is that all of the expectations don't match up with the numbers. For instance, a new Ford Lightning can power a house for days. Lets turn this around a bit... To charge your vehicle, it requires multiple days of typical household energy usage. This doesn't make sense.

imtringued 4y ago
What? It just means it has a massive energy capacity.
Gare 4y ago
What doesn't make sense? That traveling by car is extremely energy intensive?
- hutzlibu 4y ago
  Yeah, also it is quite a surprise for most people, how ridiculous inefficient ICE engines are. Most of the chemic energy just goes into the air as heat. That only worked, because oil was (and still is relativly) so cheap.
- marklubi 4y ago
  Are you intentionally being obtuse? My point was very clear.
XorNot 4y ago
> Lets turn this around a bit... To charge your vehicle, it requires multiple days of typical household energy usage. > This doesn't make sense. Sure it does: you do not actually use a lot of electricity in your house on average. By far the biggest user after you get a Lightning would be charging the lightning. Your home electrical connection's total capacity is already over-sized relative to your average usage.
greenthrow 4y ago
> Lets turn this around a bit... To charge your vehicle, it requires multiple days of typical household energy usage. Powering your ICE car takes far, far more energy. But you don't think about it because it is in the form lf a toxic liquid sloshing around. EVs are far, far more efficient than any ICE car.
SigmundA 4y ago
The 80 amp charger that allows backfeeding to run the house will charge the lightning in 8 hours, the included 32 amp charger that plugs into a dryer outlet will do it in 19 hours, still less than a day. There are no loads in your house that will pull 80 amps continuous for 8 hours which is why it can run an average house for days while only taking 8 hours to charge. Your average house has 200 amp service which is normally enough to support the additional charge load.

imtringued 4y ago

What? It just means it has a massive energy capacity.

Gare 4y ago

What doesn't make sense? That traveling by car is extremely energy intensive?

hutzlibu 4y ago
Yeah, also it is quite a surprise for most people, how ridiculous inefficient ICE engines are. Most of the chemic energy just goes into the air as heat. That only worked, because oil was (and still is relativly) so cheap.
marklubi 4y ago
Are you intentionally being obtuse? My point was very clear.

XorNot 4y ago

> Lets turn this around a bit... To charge your vehicle, it requires multiple days of typical household energy usage. > This doesn't make sense. Sure it does: you do not actually use a lot of electricity in your house on average. By far the biggest user after you get a Lightning would be charging the lightning. Your home electrical connection's total capacity is already over-sized relative to your average usage.

greenthrow 4y ago

> Lets turn this around a bit... To charge your vehicle, it requires multiple days of typical household energy usage. Powering your ICE car takes far, far more energy. But you don't think about it because it is in the form lf a toxic liquid sloshing around. EVs are far, far more efficient than any ICE car.

SigmundA 4y ago

The 80 amp charger that allows backfeeding to run the house will charge the lightning in 8 hours, the included 32 amp charger that plugs into a dryer outlet will do it in 19 hours, still less than a day. There are no loads in your house that will pull 80 amps continuous for 8 hours which is why it can run an average house for days while only taking 8 hours to charge. Your average house has 200 amp service which is normally enough to support the additional charge load.