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Enormous regressions? I could agree on “not great” but that was strong words. Haven’t really had a lot of trouble with the updates. I would say that macos 2014

by plufz 4y ago

Enormous regressions? I could agree on “not great” but that was strong words. Haven’t really had a lot of trouble with the updates. I would say that macos 2014 and 2022 have a lot more in common than 2014 macos and current linux.

callmeal 4y ago
> Enormous regressions? Well I would consider hiding system traffic from firewalls to prevent tracing to be an enormous one, wouldn't you? https://www.obdev.at/support/littlesnitch/245914647368270 https://www.obdev.at/support/littlesnitch/245914647368270 Oh I almost forgot about the image scanning regression: https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/15/apple-removes-csam-detection-website/ https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/15/apple-removes-csam-detecti... And the ominously named "Gatekeeper" https://www.engadget.com/macos-slow-apps-launching-221445977.html https://www.engadget.com/macos-slow-apps-launching-221445977...
- egypturnash 4y ago
  "UPDATE: This issue has been resolved in macOS Big Sur 11.2. Apple has removed this whitelist completely, allowing third-party firewalls like Little Snitch to reliably monitor and filter any network traffic." - the Little Snitch link
- chefandy 4y ago
  A one-time certificate server slowdown two years ago and two deeply unpopular features that they scrapped?
mulmen 4y ago
Messages basically doesn’t work anymore. I had to disable Time Machine because of the thrash of indexing itself. The UI makes no sense anymore. They removed established shortcuts for… no reason? There’s some kind of pseudo-touch style going on. Like they plan to add a touch screen but didn’t. The iOS-ification continues. MacOS is a clear second class citizen at Apple. Each of the least three releases has been worse than the one before. I hoped it was the last gasp of Ive but it’s apparently intentional. Or maybe nobody is in charge, which would make more sense. At this point Linux looks like a better option.
- neoglow 4y ago
  What's even more frustrating was the removal of 32-bit apps in Catalina and the continued deprecation of OpenGL. So many functional apps where the developers have lost interest are now non-functional. Not to even start on the irritating, vista-like security prompts for apps that are not signed (which in development is a lot...). MacOS has become less and less pleasant to use in that last 3 to 5 years for me as a developer, because of this. Which is such a shame, because the new Macbook Pro's are really amazing machines, hardware-wise. Great keyboard, Magsafe, no Touchbar, amazing screen and great battery life. I will be requesting a Linux (or Windows.. whatever) laptop at work if this one dies.
  - scarface74 4y ago
    There is literally no hardware support for 32 bit apps in the latest ARM processors. The die space was used for something more useful.
  - philistine 4y ago
    If not for the removal of 32-bit apps, we would not have ARM chips in our computers. What do you think of Microsoft's depreciation of 32-bit?
  - nicky0 4y ago
    What are some of these interesting, unmaintained 32-bit apps you speak of?
    - mrsteveman1 4y ago
      The only Steam game in my library that still works now is Myst. The list of Steam games that even supported macOS at all was already quite short, but now Portal, Portal 2, Team Fortress, the entire Half-Life series, and quite a few others will no longer run. The switch to Apple silicon machines also makes running them in a VM tricky. Even though Windows supports running x86 code on Arm hardware, the mix of architectures inside the VM creates new problems, particularly for Steam.

by plufz 4y ago

callmeal 4y ago

> Enormous regressions? Well I would consider hiding system traffic from firewalls to prevent tracing to be an enormous one, wouldn't you? https://www.obdev.at/support/littlesnitch/245914647368270 https://www.obdev.at/support/littlesnitch/245914647368270 Oh I almost forgot about the image scanning regression: https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/15/apple-removes-csam-detection-website/ https://techcrunch.com/2021/12/15/apple-removes-csam-detecti... And the ominously named "Gatekeeper" https://www.engadget.com/macos-slow-apps-launching-221445977.html https://www.engadget.com/macos-slow-apps-launching-221445977...

egypturnash 4y ago
"UPDATE: This issue has been resolved in macOS Big Sur 11.2. Apple has removed this whitelist completely, allowing third-party firewalls like Little Snitch to reliably monitor and filter any network traffic." - the Little Snitch link
chefandy 4y ago
A one-time certificate server slowdown two years ago and two deeply unpopular features that they scrapped?

mulmen 4y ago

Messages basically doesn’t work anymore. I had to disable Time Machine because of the thrash of indexing itself. The UI makes no sense anymore. They removed established shortcuts for… no reason? There’s some kind of pseudo-touch style going on. Like they plan to add a touch screen but didn’t. The iOS-ification continues. MacOS is a clear second class citizen at Apple. Each of the least three releases has been worse than the one before. I hoped it was the last gasp of Ive but it’s apparently intentional. Or maybe nobody is in charge, which would make more sense. At this point Linux looks like a better option.

neoglow 4y ago
What's even more frustrating was the removal of 32-bit apps in Catalina and the continued deprecation of OpenGL. So many functional apps where the developers have lost interest are now non-functional. Not to even start on the irritating, vista-like security prompts for apps that are not signed (which in development is a lot...). MacOS has become less and less pleasant to use in that last 3 to 5 years for me as a developer, because of this. Which is such a shame, because the new Macbook Pro's are really amazing machines, hardware-wise. Great keyboard, Magsafe, no Touchbar, amazing screen and great battery life. I will be requesting a Linux (or Windows.. whatever) laptop at work if this one dies.
- scarface74 4y ago
  There is literally no hardware support for 32 bit apps in the latest ARM processors. The die space was used for something more useful.
- philistine 4y ago
  If not for the removal of 32-bit apps, we would not have ARM chips in our computers. What do you think of Microsoft's depreciation of 32-bit?
- nicky0 4y ago
  What are some of these interesting, unmaintained 32-bit apps you speak of?
  - mrsteveman1 4y ago
    The only Steam game in my library that still works now is Myst. The list of Steam games that even supported macOS at all was already quite short, but now Portal, Portal 2, Team Fortress, the entire Half-Life series, and quite a few others will no longer run. The switch to Apple silicon machines also makes running them in a VM tricky. Even though Windows supports running x86 code on Arm hardware, the mix of architectures inside the VM creates new problems, particularly for Steam.