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GP's point isn't about flagship phones, but about the average price over the general ecosystem. Of course, they may be wrong, since they didn't cite anything.

GP's point isn't about flagship phones, but about the average price over the general ecosystem. Of course, they may be wrong, since they didn't cite anything. But I would clearly be surprised to learn that the average Android phone sold isn't cheaper than the average iPhone sold.

HWR_14 4y ago
> I would clearly be surprised to learn that the average Android phone sold isn't cheaper than the average iPhone sold. I really would. In the US (where this survey is based) every two years you can get a free iPhone for switching carriers. Usually it's a year or so behind the curve. Carriers offer discounts on Android phones that lead to some being free as well, of course, but it wouldn't surprise me if a huge percentage of iPhones were subsidized by carriers to get business and were free to end users.
- vladvasiliu 4y ago
  In France, there are plans that give you discounted iPhones (never seen current or previous generations ones for free). Some cheaper Androids can be free. But these plans are much more expensive than equivalent plans with no phone. My aging iPhone is more or less due for a replacement, so I've been looking into those. Basically, you have to take on these plans for two years. And by the end of the two years, if you sum the difference between the plans, you usually end up paying more than if you bought the iPhone on your own.
BbzzbB 4y ago
I agree that it seems quite self-evident. But for kicks, here are some proper numbers of average price by OS (couldn't find median). Statista (2012-2018): https://www.statista.com/statistics/309472/global-average-selling-price-smartphones/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/309472/global-average-se... Some peer-reviewed paper (2007-2016): https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-average-selling-price-of-smartphones-by-operating-system_tbl2_334434628 https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-average-selling-pric... Shouldn't surprise anyone really, but iPhones are more expensive. Let's also consider the fact they have <14% [1] market share of smartphones yet are the most profitable and valuable company on Earth (excluding the one that's the extension of a monarchy/state) because of that product, which I think paints the picture. 1: https://www.statista.com/statistics/272307/market-share-forecast-for-smartphone-operating-systems/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/272307/market-share-fore...
- MBCook 4y ago
  Remember though that iPhone market share is consistently 40-50% in the US, varying by year. I couldn’t tell from the article if the survey was US only or not but given they quote incomes in dollars I wouldn’t be surprised. So 14% may not be relevant here.
  - HWR_14 4y ago
    The article wasn't clear, but the survey was done of 2,000 customers (1,000 each OS) done by a US company (I believe a startup) designed to connect it's customers with discounts at US stores. While it's possible (it's an app/website) that non-US users exist, it seems unlikely anyone would sign up if they were outside the US.
  - BbzzbB 4y ago
    Fair, Facebook's ARPU per region is a good illustration of how much more valuable that market is compared to everywhere else. FWIW I recall seeing an even higher figure for US teens.

HWR_14 4y ago

> I would clearly be surprised to learn that the average Android phone sold isn't cheaper than the average iPhone sold. I really would. In the US (where this survey is based) every two years you can get a free iPhone for switching carriers. Usually it's a year or so behind the curve. Carriers offer discounts on Android phones that lead to some being free as well, of course, but it wouldn't surprise me if a huge percentage of iPhones were subsidized by carriers to get business and were free to end users.

vladvasiliu 4y ago
In France, there are plans that give you discounted iPhones (never seen current or previous generations ones for free). Some cheaper Androids can be free. But these plans are much more expensive than equivalent plans with no phone. My aging iPhone is more or less due for a replacement, so I've been looking into those. Basically, you have to take on these plans for two years. And by the end of the two years, if you sum the difference between the plans, you usually end up paying more than if you bought the iPhone on your own.

BbzzbB 4y ago

I agree that it seems quite self-evident. But for kicks, here are some proper numbers of average price by OS (couldn't find median). Statista (2012-2018): https://www.statista.com/statistics/309472/global-average-selling-price-smartphones/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/309472/global-average-se... Some peer-reviewed paper (2007-2016): https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-average-selling-price-of-smartphones-by-operating-system_tbl2_334434628 https://www.researchgate.net/figure/The-average-selling-pric... Shouldn't surprise anyone really, but iPhones are more expensive. Let's also consider the fact they have <14% [1] market share of smartphones yet are the most profitable and valuable company on Earth (excluding the one that's the extension of a monarchy/state) because of that product, which I think paints the picture. 1: https://www.statista.com/statistics/272307/market-share-forecast-for-smartphone-operating-systems/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/272307/market-share-fore...

MBCook 4y ago
Remember though that iPhone market share is consistently 40-50% in the US, varying by year. I couldn’t tell from the article if the survey was US only or not but given they quote incomes in dollars I wouldn’t be surprised. So 14% may not be relevant here.
- HWR_14 4y ago
  The article wasn't clear, but the survey was done of 2,000 customers (1,000 each OS) done by a US company (I believe a startup) designed to connect it's customers with discounts at US stores. While it's possible (it's an app/website) that non-US users exist, it seems unlikely anyone would sign up if they were outside the US.
- BbzzbB 4y ago
  Fair, Facebook's ARPU per region is a good illustration of how much more valuable that market is compared to everywhere else. FWIW I recall seeing an even higher figure for US teens.