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2/3 of the US immigration system isn't foreign STEM grads. Not even remotely close. What part of what I said are you actually trying to disagree with? I was ve

2/3 of the US immigration system isn't foreign STEM grads. Not even remotely close. What part of what I said are you actually trying to disagree with? I was very clearly speaking about the overall US immigration system and how it's structured. Foreign STEM grads quite obviously fall into the higher income, higher education, higher skill grouping that (per my prior reference) Canada and Australia prefer to focus the majority of their immigration on (whereas the US does not focus its immigration in such a manner).

hartator 4y ago
> The population addition in question is majority lower income, lower education oriented in numbers. That's absolutely not true, and it sounds like 101 xenophobia. Immigrants in the U.S. are significantly better educated than U.S. natives. Ref: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-finding...
- dshoemaker 4y ago
  > Immigrants in the U.S. _as a whole have lower levels of education than the U.S._-born population. In 2018, _immigrants were over three times as likely as the U.S. born to have not completed high school_ (27% vs. 8%). However, _immigrants were just as likely as the U.S. born to have a bachelor’s degree or more_ (32% and 33%, respectively). > Educational attainment varies among the nation’s immigrant groups, particularly across immigrants from different regions of the world. Immigrants from Mexico and Central America are less likely to be high school graduates than the U.S. born (54% and 47%, respectively, do not have a high school diploma, vs. 8% of U.S. born). On the other hand, immigrants from every region except Mexico, the Caribbean and Central America were as likely as or more likely than U.S.-born residents to have a bachelor’s or advanced degree. Not the OP you're responding to but your own source disagrees with your assertion. Relevant quotes above, emphasis mine. Also, I'm not against immigration but it gets old seeing accusations of xenophobia when someone is trying to have a reasonable conversation about the very real macro-level challenges involved in immigration. Stifling this sort of discourse also ends up being a disservice to people that have worked very hard to immigrate to the US as it can lead to people sweeping under the rug the challenges people will face when arriving.
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hartator 4y ago

> The population addition in question is majority lower income, lower education oriented in numbers. That's absolutely not true, and it sounds like 101 xenophobia. Immigrants in the U.S. are significantly better educated than U.S. natives. Ref: https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-findings-about-u-s-immigrants/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2020/08/20/key-finding...

dshoemaker 4y ago
> Immigrants in the U.S. _as a whole have lower levels of education than the U.S._-born population. In 2018, _immigrants were over three times as likely as the U.S. born to have not completed high school_ (27% vs. 8%). However, _immigrants were just as likely as the U.S. born to have a bachelor’s degree or more_ (32% and 33%, respectively). > Educational attainment varies among the nation’s immigrant groups, particularly across immigrants from different regions of the world. Immigrants from Mexico and Central America are less likely to be high school graduates than the U.S. born (54% and 47%, respectively, do not have a high school diploma, vs. 8% of U.S. born). On the other hand, immigrants from every region except Mexico, the Caribbean and Central America were as likely as or more likely than U.S.-born residents to have a bachelor’s or advanced degree. Not the OP you're responding to but your own source disagrees with your assertion. Relevant quotes above, emphasis mine. Also, I'm not against immigration but it gets old seeing accusations of xenophobia when someone is trying to have a reasonable conversation about the very real macro-level challenges involved in immigration. Stifling this sort of discourse also ends up being a disservice to people that have worked very hard to immigrate to the US as it can lead to people sweeping under the rug the challenges people will face when arriving.
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