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You're removing all the oxygen from the real debate: police officers are expected to rush an active shooter scene to end the threat. Containment only increases

You're removing all the oxygen from the real debate: police officers are expected to rush an active shooter scene to end the threat. Containment only increases the casualties. This has been the best response for a long time. Read this: https://www.theiacp.org/resources/policy-center-resource/active-shooter https://www.theiacp.org/resources/policy-center-resource/act... What has seemingly happened in Uvalde is a complete betrayal of that typical response. Officers contained the threat, allowing it to fester inside the school for an hour. When going in, they focused on the children instead of the shooter, getting even more children killed because of this. That they are not legally required to put themselves in harm's way does not mean their coordinated response must be whitewashed.

kube-system 4y ago
I don't disagree that it's a best practice, or that those best practices are a good idea. Expecting the police to follow those best practices every time is not any more reasonable than expecting any other profession to follow best practice every time. The reason we don't legally require them to prevent crime is that it's an unachievable standard.
- ryathal 4y ago
  In most professions if you don't follow best practices to this degree, you are lucky to just be fired.
- orwin 4y ago
  I'm sorry, i worked with patient health data, and i'm currently working with people banking informations. Expecting i follow the industry best practice is the MINIMUM. It is reasonable that my employer expect me to store my passowrds/api keys everytime and that i do not publish them on github/gitlab. It is also reasonable that my APIs are protected. Its is also reasonable that i monitor if my services are up or down. I don't understand why a police officer would not be held by the same standards. Also, ~7 years ago, i was a counselor at a youth camp for police orphans. The three directors were from the RAID (SWAT equivalent in my country) and the medical assistant from the CRS (specialized police for riot control). They might have oversold their heroics, and those of the parents of the children we created activities for, but even then, any one of them would've gone inside as soon the shooter was contained.
  - kube-system 4y ago
    Things like FCRA and HIPAA aren't best practices, they're law. If your data isn't protected by law in the US, chances are that data processors are most likely not following many data protection best practices.

kube-system 4y ago

I don't disagree that it's a best practice, or that those best practices are a good idea. Expecting the police to follow those best practices every time is not any more reasonable than expecting any other profession to follow best practice every time. The reason we don't legally require them to prevent crime is that it's an unachievable standard.

ryathal 4y ago
In most professions if you don't follow best practices to this degree, you are lucky to just be fired.
orwin 4y ago
I'm sorry, i worked with patient health data, and i'm currently working with people banking informations. Expecting i follow the industry best practice is the MINIMUM. It is reasonable that my employer expect me to store my passowrds/api keys everytime and that i do not publish them on github/gitlab. It is also reasonable that my APIs are protected. Its is also reasonable that i monitor if my services are up or down. I don't understand why a police officer would not be held by the same standards. Also, ~7 years ago, i was a counselor at a youth camp for police orphans. The three directors were from the RAID (SWAT equivalent in my country) and the medical assistant from the CRS (specialized police for riot control). They might have oversold their heroics, and those of the parents of the children we created activities for, but even then, any one of them would've gone inside as soon the shooter was contained.
- kube-system 4y ago
  Things like FCRA and HIPAA aren't best practices, they're law. If your data isn't protected by law in the US, chances are that data processors are most likely not following many data protection best practices.