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In France they have a law that the employer is not allowed to call you off work hours. I think it should also apply to instant messaging. They also have another
by petre 4y ago
In France they have a law that the employer is not allowed to call you off work hours. I think it should also apply to instant messaging. They also have another good law which prohibits eating in the office, so they all have to take the lunch break off and eat at a restaurant or bistro or canteen. Which is great because food delivery also generates single use food container waste and also food waste.
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- ghaff 4y agoI mostly don't even want IMs on my personal phone though--and I don't want to carry two phones. I personally have no issue with doing some quick work off and on after hours--so long as you have no trouble with me taking care of some errands during the day. Seems a pretty good tradeoff. When I went into an office, I would sometimes grab lunch at my desk if I just wanted some calories and wrap up my day as quickly as possible. Otherwise I'd eat with people in the cafeteria or go out (options for both of which varied a lot by job).
- majewsky 4y agoAgreed on the food container waste, but why would eating at the desk vs. in a restaurant cause more food waste? I'm just eating the same portion in a different place. Also, when no one else is in the office, I sometimes like eating at my desk because I can eat by myself instead of having to deal with noisy people at the other tables.
- petre 4y agoBecause something always comes up and the food goes cold and stale? Plus the office reeks of food, ketchup on your keyboard, unhygenic. You can eat wherewer you want, just not in the office. You can eat in the park. The thing is, one also gets to disconnect from work, walk away from the desk and maintain a proper work life balance. Some French individuals also use the lunch break to exercise. I don't live in France but we use the meeting room to eat, instead of eating at our desks. We properly vent it afterwards, of course.
- tomjen3 4y agoThats terrible, because it you can't bring your own food? What the hell do with people limit/weird diets do?
- petre 4y agoYes you can, just not eat it in the office. They also bring their own food. I guess there are places where you can eat you own food confortably.
- SoftTalker 4y agoIs someone actually going to call the police if I'm eating a sandwich at my desk? And are they going to respond?
- MomoXenosaga 4y agoNo you will just be ostracized. There is this line in Europe, the North-South divide. And they dont do "sandwich" for lunch it is full on dining with wine. Degenerates!
- benhurmarcel 4y agoI work in France and nobody will complain if you eat at your desk, but it's not something people do usually. If you do it often people will comment that you should take your break. French people like to take the time to eat in some other place, even if done quickly. Most employers have at least a dedicated room for eat your own food, with some basic equipment. In practice the law is more about what employers must provide in terms of amenities and time off to eat.
- tomjen3 4y agoOkay, that is a lot different than not being allowed to eat in the office. All the two places I have worked had a separate eating area as well, though I often snack at my desk.
- scarface74 4y agoSo you think that it’s good that the government tells you where you can eat?