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Thank God. I for one did not opt into this beta test every time I get on the road.
by hyperbovine 4y ago
Thank God. I for one did not opt into this beta test every time I get on the road.
- epgui 4y agoThis is not about FSD.
- Vladimof 4y agoIt doesn't help that Musk tries to create confusion by naming things something they're not. Next thing he'll implement might be the Flying Car Update... which will turn lights green as you drive by using the 14hz infrared signal.
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- robonerd 4y agoHyperbovine didn't mention FSD. Let me spell it out for you: Autopilot is beta grade software at best. It drives straight into parked trucks.
- KennyBlanken 4y agoIt routinely drives straight into parked emergency vehicles displaying a blaze of flashing lights.
- md2020 4y ago“Routinely” isn’t even close to the truth.
- epgui 4y agoThe company doesn’t consider autopilot to be in beta, but it does call FSD this.
- robonerd 4y ago> The company doesn’t consider autopilot to be in beta That only makes it even worse.
- epgui 4y agoI think the question of whether something is a beta is different than whether anyone thinks it ought to be. There’s a lot of “non-beta”, but bad, software.
- robonerd 4y agoTesla thinking this software is production ready shows a complete disconnect from either reality or common morality.
- Barrin92 4y agothe difference being that most of that software doesn't move two tons of steel through traffic at lethal velocities so maybe accurate terminology is appropriate here.
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- md2020 4y agoWhat about other driving assistance system that claim to do the same thing as Autopilot? My 2022 Hyundai Elantra has a system that drives itself on highways. GM Super/UltraCruise is available on highways. Is NHTSA gonna investigate them too? Presumably they’re no farther along in self driving than Tesla is.
- fells 4y agoPresumably they will if they're involved in a statistically significant number of incidents.
- dragonwriter 4y ago> What about other driving assistance system that claim to do the same thing as Autopilot? Do other driving assistance systems claim to drive into parked emergency vehicles?
- brandonagr2 4y agoYes, every adaptive cruise control system explicitly ignores stationary objects when travelling at highway speeds (the radar filters out stationary things, as it cant tell the difference between a road sign and a stopped car)
- freeflight 4y agoWith the way Tesla markets autopilot [0] it's really no surprise people are using these as interchangeably as Tesla itself tends to do. [0] https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53418069 https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-53418069
- bagels 4y agoIt used to say on the autopilot page "full self driving hardware". They left of the distinction that "full self driving software" is not done yet.
- MBCook 4y agoThis, more than anything, is what worries me. I do not own a Tesla. I didn’t agree to anything. I’m not choosing to enable auto-pilot (or FSD). And yet my life is/may be in danger because of it. No other car manufacturer has ever done anything like this as far as I know.
- daxaxelrod 4y agoThis is fear mongering disguised as concern. Tesla publishes data about incident rates for drivers both on and off autopilot and they are markedly lower than other drivers. https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport https://www.tesla.com/VehicleSafetyReport
- thfuran 4y agoWhat if you control for demographic factors? I'd expect that new drivers and the elderly have accidents at a much higher rate than the average driver and also have low Tesla ownership rates. Edit: I see they do have base rate w/o autopilot listed and it does significantly differ from national average.
- erosenbe0 4y agoThe families I know with very expensive sedans often drive their other vehicle in snowy weather.
- MBCook 4y agoSo because I don’t believe numbers published by the company trying to protect its own image I’m fear mongering? No, I genuinely don’t like this situation. I’m not trying to troll. I’m just saying my opinion.
- mhh__ 4y agoDoes it distinguish between the types of road driven on? It's a very important distinction because where people sensible people choose to activate the system is probably on long journeys where crashes are already rare.
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- bamboozled 4y agoWhen you drive on the road with other Teslas, your unwillingly participating though?
- thfuran 4y agoWhich is why they express relief at the prospect of the recall.
- buffington 4y agoI've got news for you. Whether you have a Tesla with FSD or not, you're part of the beta the moment you're near a Tesla with FSD engaged.