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Fat Chance. Reading between the lines of US government policy making it's clear that our political betters would prefer a system whereby every transaction can
by lp0_on_fire 4y ago
Fat Chance. Reading between the lines of US government policy making it's clear that our political betters would prefer a system whereby every transaction can be tracked digitally down to the cent.
- alwayslikethis 4y agoand this is why I will not be buying an electric car. They are cool technology-wise, but the telemetry in in the car itself combined with the inability to refuel it without giving up your info to the big brother makes me hesitate.
- Kon-Peki 4y agoThe same telemetry is in your gasoline car. You can "secretly" refuel an electric car at your own home, or the home of your friend, or at many other places. But unless you know how to make your own gasoline, that's not happening with your ICE vehicle. So electric cars are an improvement.
- 0daystock 4y agoA gasoline engine can run without any software and thus be demonstrably free of backdoors, planned obsolescence mechanisms and the obvious tracking/spying inherent with most commercial programs today.
- Kon-Peki 4y agoGood call. Just a few weeks ago I bought a gasoline-powered John Deere with 0 software (controlling the engine). It has 21 horsepower and can reach a top speed of 6.5 mph. If you want to step up a bit their 1-series and the base model 2-series tractors have mechanically-injected Yanmar diesels that are seriously wonderful little motors. A lot of 30-45 foot sailboats also use them, so you could literally travel the world with one. If you wanted something more automotive grade, that ship sailed about 40 years ago. Sorry.
- Klonoar 4y agoEV convert an old car to get around much of that. ;)
- wbsss4412 4y agoWhen was the last gas car commercially available that didn’t run without software involved? As a practical matter I don’t see how what you wrote applies.
- fzzzy 4y agoAnd cameras with license plate readers could be at every gas station.
- supertrope 4y agoDoes your definition of software include the microcontrollers that handle anti-lock braking, fuel efficient engines, and automatic emergency braking?
- bravetraveler 4y agoJust here to mention those portable gas cans
- alwayslikethis 4y agoOf course, I would not be buying a new gasoline car either. The point here is with gasoline the car from 10-15 year ago is not much of a downgrade compared to today, whereas with electric it is.
- 0daystock 4y agoDon't forget they can be remotely disabled for any time or reason, seriously creepy stuff. https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/29/barr-bidens-infrastructure-bill-contains-backdoor-kill-switch-for-cars/ https://dailycaller.com/2021/11/29/barr-bidens-infrastructur...
- Clubber 4y agoOnStar has been doing that since the 1990s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnStar https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OnStar
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- aaaaaaaaata 4y agoFamously(?) depicted in the first Fast and Furious film!
- seanmcdirmid 4y agoYou only pay cash at gas pumps? I’ve got to remember they still have attendants, I haven’t done something like that in 30 years.
- alwayslikethis 4y agoYeah. Maybe it is different in the US. I usually pay cash at gas pumps unless I don't have enough on that day.