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Doesn’t the WebKit ruling give the rest of the mobile Internet over to Chromium, if it’s not paired with a ruling against Google? This ultimately isn’t a win fo

Doesn’t the WebKit ruling give the rest of the mobile Internet over to Chromium, if it’s not paired with a ruling against Google? This ultimately isn’t a win for Firefox.

kitsunesoba 4y ago
I think that's the most likely outcome. Google already pushes the current WebKit version of Chrome for iOS hard and that will only intensify once a Blink-based version is possible. Even if Mozilla goes on an all-out marketing blitz to try to boost usership a Gecko-based Firefox for iOS, I don't think they stand a chance. The number of eyeballs seeing Chrome promotions is simply too much greater than those seeing Firefox promotions. It would be nice if Gecko were the only alternative engine available on iOS, because that'd be a huge boost for overall web engine diversity but it's hard to envision a scenario in which that happens.
sumy23 4y ago
Maybe. A lot of people use mobile Safari. If anything, this could be a good incentive for Apple to actually fix the numerous issues plaguing Safari.
- realusername 4y ago
  Their money is made on the appstore, they benefit from the issues plaguing Safari
lern_too_spel 4y ago
Only if Apple continues to make a buggy Safari. Apple retains the ability to set the default browser. Microsoft was able to increase market share with Edge.
- phs318u 4y ago
  Though isn't Edge just a MS skinned Chromium? It's only increased the consolidation onto Google's Blink engine.
aaomidi 4y ago
Being forced to use a worse browser doesn’t make competition better. It just makes safari stagnate and not have to actually compete.
- mid-kid 4y ago
  It's not about competition but about having anyone other than google have a say on web standards. As much as it pains me to say it, safari's stagnance and anticompetitiveness is the last bastion of resistance against a Google monopoly of web browsers, and one of the main reasons web developers bother testing anything other than Chrome. Once the floodgates open, websites will see no reason to not use the latest Chrome features all the time, making it even more impossible to compete in this market.
  - lern_too_spel 4y ago
    What good is Apple's say if they're not going to provide anything worth using? With that justification, they might as well stop updating Safari at all.
  - nuker 4y ago
    > As much as it pains me to say it, safari's stagnance and anticompetitiveness is the last bastion of resistance against a Google monopoly of web browsers true

Doesn’t the WebKit ruling give the rest of the mobile Internet over to Chromium, if it’s not paired with a ruling against Google? This ultimately isn’t a win for Firefox.

kitsunesoba 4y ago

I think that's the most likely outcome. Google already pushes the current WebKit version of Chrome for iOS hard and that will only intensify once a Blink-based version is possible. Even if Mozilla goes on an all-out marketing blitz to try to boost usership a Gecko-based Firefox for iOS, I don't think they stand a chance. The number of eyeballs seeing Chrome promotions is simply too much greater than those seeing Firefox promotions. It would be nice if Gecko were the only alternative engine available on iOS, because that'd be a huge boost for overall web engine diversity but it's hard to envision a scenario in which that happens.

sumy23 4y ago

Maybe. A lot of people use mobile Safari. If anything, this could be a good incentive for Apple to actually fix the numerous issues plaguing Safari.

realusername 4y ago
Their money is made on the appstore, they benefit from the issues plaguing Safari

lern_too_spel 4y ago

Only if Apple continues to make a buggy Safari. Apple retains the ability to set the default browser. Microsoft was able to increase market share with Edge.

phs318u 4y ago
Though isn't Edge just a MS skinned Chromium? It's only increased the consolidation onto Google's Blink engine.

aaomidi 4y ago

Being forced to use a worse browser doesn’t make competition better. It just makes safari stagnate and not have to actually compete.

mid-kid 4y ago
It's not about competition but about having anyone other than google have a say on web standards. As much as it pains me to say it, safari's stagnance and anticompetitiveness is the last bastion of resistance against a Google monopoly of web browsers, and one of the main reasons web developers bother testing anything other than Chrome. Once the floodgates open, websites will see no reason to not use the latest Chrome features all the time, making it even more impossible to compete in this market.
- lern_too_spel 4y ago
  What good is Apple's say if they're not going to provide anything worth using? With that justification, they might as well stop updating Safari at all.
- nuker 4y ago
  > As much as it pains me to say it, safari's stagnance and anticompetitiveness is the last bastion of resistance against a Google monopoly of web browsers true