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One is a fundamental human experience. The other is a SaaS.

davidguetta 4y ago
Some would argue that careers usually last longer than the usual modern relationships.. In both case I think the advice is "do not get invested that much that you loose everything including yourself if it fails".
- eckza 4y ago
  > "do not get invested that much that you loose everything including yourself if it fails" That's great advice if you're 18 years old; but some things are worth the risk. If you're not all in, you're not in at all. While this certainly applies to work in some cases, it applies as much as again if you want to start a family. Modern relationships are a hell because everyone has their eye on the door at all times - ready to bolt at a moment's notice if something goes wrong, or if something better comes along. You'll never have a family of your own with that mindset; it's a problem that causes itself.
  - antonvs 4y ago
    > If you're not all in, you're not in at all. Seems like black and white thinking. There's a big spectrum between those two extremes, and no good reason you can't healthily occupy a point on that spectrum. In fact, many points on that spectrum are probably a lot more healthy than either extreme.
  - davidguetta 4y ago
    Good point tho
- brailsafe 4y ago
  Well, you have managed to have pretty long career as a DJ. I don't know if anyone can be so influential in software development as you were with House music ;)
  - davidguetta 4y ago
    Im not the real one but John Carmack is a good shot
cercatrova 4y ago
Depends on how much success you have with the SaaS, perhaps it changes your life enough to be a world-changing event. Some people fall in love multiple times, not many can say the same about making a ground breaking SaaS. Tongue firmly in cheek, in case people don't get what I'm saying.
dkarl 4y ago
Work is a fundamental human experience, too.
- vladimir929 4y ago
  I don’t think so. When you look at the historical record. Work either in the modern or agricultural sense has only existed for at most 5% of human existence. It’s a modern concept.
  - Forbo 4y ago
    I'd still consider hunting/gathering a form of work. And who knows, maybe the disposition for individuals to hyperfocus on that form of work led to more genetic success and desirability for reproduction, since it meant there would be more security of resources. I have no idea if these tendencies have a genetic component, totally spitballing here.
  - 7952 4y ago
    Dividing things into intrinsically human and not is a false dichotomy. Our experience is always a mix of what comes from our biology and what comes from culture. Finding enjoyment in a craft or a puzzle may well have existed for thousands of years. And relationships are definitely effected by culture. The expectations around marriage for example have changed a lot.

Some would argue that careers usually last longer than the usual modern relationships.. In both case I think the advice is "do not get invested that much that you loose everything including yourself if it fails".

eckza 4y ago
> "do not get invested that much that you loose everything including yourself if it fails" That's great advice if you're 18 years old; but some things are worth the risk. If you're not all in, you're not in at all. While this certainly applies to work in some cases, it applies as much as again if you want to start a family. Modern relationships are a hell because everyone has their eye on the door at all times - ready to bolt at a moment's notice if something goes wrong, or if something better comes along. You'll never have a family of your own with that mindset; it's a problem that causes itself.
- antonvs 4y ago
  > If you're not all in, you're not in at all. Seems like black and white thinking. There's a big spectrum between those two extremes, and no good reason you can't healthily occupy a point on that spectrum. In fact, many points on that spectrum are probably a lot more healthy than either extreme.
- davidguetta 4y ago
  Good point tho
brailsafe 4y ago
Well, you have managed to have pretty long career as a DJ. I don't know if anyone can be so influential in software development as you were with House music ;)
- davidguetta 4y ago
  Im not the real one but John Carmack is a good shot

cercatrova 4y ago

Depends on how much success you have with the SaaS, perhaps it changes your life enough to be a world-changing event. Some people fall in love multiple times, not many can say the same about making a ground breaking SaaS. Tongue firmly in cheek, in case people don't get what I'm saying.

dkarl 4y ago

Work is a fundamental human experience, too.

vladimir929 4y ago
I don’t think so. When you look at the historical record. Work either in the modern or agricultural sense has only existed for at most 5% of human existence. It’s a modern concept.
- Forbo 4y ago
  I'd still consider hunting/gathering a form of work. And who knows, maybe the disposition for individuals to hyperfocus on that form of work led to more genetic success and desirability for reproduction, since it meant there would be more security of resources. I have no idea if these tendencies have a genetic component, totally spitballing here.
- 7952 4y ago
  Dividing things into intrinsically human and not is a false dichotomy. Our experience is always a mix of what comes from our biology and what comes from culture. Finding enjoyment in a craft or a puzzle may well have existed for thousands of years. And relationships are definitely effected by culture. The expectations around marriage for example have changed a lot.