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Seems pretty clear that they are replying to the 'if he was helpful'...

by palmetieri2000 4y ago

s1artibartfast 4y ago
Ok, so they are just making up an answer and speaking on behalf of the fire crew.
- palmetieri2000 4y ago
  Just reading the other comments here and you can easily see the quotes others have provided from the relevant emergency people who told this guy to stop, in person, from interfering. He ignored them and deserves this fine.
  - s1artibartfast 4y ago
- mike_d 4y ago
  One of the things that happened post 9/11 was all emergency response was standardized on the national ICS system (which I included in an edit to my original post), so a police officer or a firefighter from Kansas can work an incident in New Mexico if they need to because all the procedures are the same. Being certified in ICS my response to you is the same you'd get from the IC of the fire. Nothing about this clown show was helpful, because you have now created an incident within an incident that diverts the most critical assets (command and control) from what they should be doing to direct the attack on the fire.
  - s1artibartfast 4y ago
    So it wouldn't be helpful if he told them the firemen were working over a live gas line or that there were a dozen schoolchildren trapped in a fire? I get that he was probably a nuisance, I just think it is absurd that everyone here is speaking as if they have perfect certainty. I guess the moral is never talk to cops, even if it would save lives.
    - Dylan16807 4y ago
      If you need the info to be delivered immediately, you could probably use that frequency. If it can wait 2 minutes, then use the proper channels. This guy could have waited 2 minutes, if he had any useful information at all. This isn't "don't talk to cops", this is more like "don't jump into a moving cop car to tell them something".
    - moontear 4y ago
      It would be helpful, just not the way he did. During his transmissions he was blocking any other transmission on that frequency, maybe an important message couldn’t be sent due to his „help“. Those frequencies are for emergency personnel only and it can‘t be used as a public tip line. Imagine there would be more of his kind on those frequencies, all of them „helping“. Each one thinking that their help is essential, but none of them actually being in emergency response teams, just sitting in their lawn chairs giving helpful advise.
    - yellowapple 4y ago
    - mike_d 4y ago
      The correct way to communicate this information is to call 911. Operators are highly trained in collecting the right information and getting it out to the right people quickly. Or hell even just saying "break break, I am a civilian with life saving information" and waiting would have been acceptable in an emergency. The comms manager would have directed him to change to a backup frequency and taken the information. Instead he tried to "fit in" and play cool guy. As a holder of multiple FCC licenses, he is obligated by law to know this stuff, which is why I am being overly hard on him.
- anigbrowl 4y ago

Seems pretty clear that they are replying to the 'if he was helpful'...

s1artibartfast 4y ago

Ok, so they are just making up an answer and speaking on behalf of the fire crew.

palmetieri2000 4y ago
Just reading the other comments here and you can easily see the quotes others have provided from the relevant emergency people who told this guy to stop, in person, from interfering. He ignored them and deserves this fine.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
mike_d 4y ago
One of the things that happened post 9/11 was all emergency response was standardized on the national ICS system (which I included in an edit to my original post), so a police officer or a firefighter from Kansas can work an incident in New Mexico if they need to because all the procedures are the same. Being certified in ICS my response to you is the same you'd get from the IC of the fire. Nothing about this clown show was helpful, because you have now created an incident within an incident that diverts the most critical assets (command and control) from what they should be doing to direct the attack on the fire.
- s1artibartfast 4y ago
  So it wouldn't be helpful if he told them the firemen were working over a live gas line or that there were a dozen schoolchildren trapped in a fire? I get that he was probably a nuisance, I just think it is absurd that everyone here is speaking as if they have perfect certainty. I guess the moral is never talk to cops, even if it would save lives.
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    If you need the info to be delivered immediately, you could probably use that frequency. If it can wait 2 minutes, then use the proper channels. This guy could have waited 2 minutes, if he had any useful information at all. This isn't "don't talk to cops", this is more like "don't jump into a moving cop car to tell them something".
  - moontear 4y ago
    It would be helpful, just not the way he did. During his transmissions he was blocking any other transmission on that frequency, maybe an important message couldn’t be sent due to his „help“. Those frequencies are for emergency personnel only and it can‘t be used as a public tip line. Imagine there would be more of his kind on those frequencies, all of them „helping“. Each one thinking that their help is essential, but none of them actually being in emergency response teams, just sitting in their lawn chairs giving helpful advise.
  - yellowapple 4y ago
  - mike_d 4y ago
    The correct way to communicate this information is to call 911. Operators are highly trained in collecting the right information and getting it out to the right people quickly. Or hell even just saying "break break, I am a civilian with life saving information" and waiting would have been acceptable in an emergency. The comms manager would have directed him to change to a backup frequency and taken the information. Instead he tried to "fit in" and play cool guy. As a holder of multiple FCC licenses, he is obligated by law to know this stuff, which is why I am being overly hard on him.
anigbrowl 4y ago