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But they are. We have several a millenia of history on how to construct cities in a way that is scale appropriate to us as humans. We choose to ignore it, but t

But they are. We have several a millenia of history on how to construct cities in a way that is scale appropriate to us as humans. We choose to ignore it, but that doesn't mean that applying the same principles, we cannot achieve the same thing in the US. The formula is simple. Build out the core of each city that compromises a metropolitan area so that it is pedestrian first. You do that by building out multi family mixed used housing in the core. Then you ensure there are a lot of buses/bike lanes/trains that get you in and out of there, rinse, repeat. It tends towards happier, healthier people that spends more. Look up the statistics on that.

dr_dshiv 4y ago
Prince Charles (I know) has a book on this topic. It is called “Harmony” and it is really, really good. https://www.amazon.com/Harmony-Prince-Wales-Charles/dp/0007348037 https://www.amazon.com/Harmony-Prince-Wales-Charles/dp/00073...
whiplash451 4y ago
If the formula was simple, it would have been applied already. Plus, you cannot “reboot” Atlanta to match your cute vision of a core city in the snap of a finger. I am not saying nothing can be done. I am saying that it is a lot harder that books and papers and studies make it seem.
- dijit 4y ago
  > If the formula was simple, it would have been applied already. Unsure, people have really ingrained ideas about cars in the US, any attempt at discussing alternatives is met with emotional backlash and it's very difficult to talk passed this. It's actually very similar in the UK, though you can see a difference in cities with good public transport and those without, it's like we optimise for extremes in either direction. Objectively if it was a good option (not arguing that it is right now) to have a solid public transport system; people are ideologically opposed because of the belief that public transport is inconvenient, unsafe, a loss of personal freedom etc; and it's hard to argue those points because they're coming from an emotional place, thus people cycle between those issues in an attempt to deflect direct refutation over each one of the points individually.
  - whiplash451 4y ago
    I have to admit, you have a point :)

dr_dshiv 4y ago

Prince Charles (I know) has a book on this topic. It is called “Harmony” and it is really, really good. https://www.amazon.com/Harmony-Prince-Wales-Charles/dp/0007348037 https://www.amazon.com/Harmony-Prince-Wales-Charles/dp/00073...

whiplash451 4y ago

If the formula was simple, it would have been applied already. Plus, you cannot “reboot” Atlanta to match your cute vision of a core city in the snap of a finger. I am not saying nothing can be done. I am saying that it is a lot harder that books and papers and studies make it seem.

dijit 4y ago
> If the formula was simple, it would have been applied already. Unsure, people have really ingrained ideas about cars in the US, any attempt at discussing alternatives is met with emotional backlash and it's very difficult to talk passed this. It's actually very similar in the UK, though you can see a difference in cities with good public transport and those without, it's like we optimise for extremes in either direction. Objectively if it was a good option (not arguing that it is right now) to have a solid public transport system; people are ideologically opposed because of the belief that public transport is inconvenient, unsafe, a loss of personal freedom etc; and it's hard to argue those points because they're coming from an emotional place, thus people cycle between those issues in an attempt to deflect direct refutation over each one of the points individually.
- whiplash451 4y ago
  I have to admit, you have a point :)