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Hardly unique to gaming. In the guitar world it's a running joke that only 5000 of the the 1500 1959 Gibson Les Paul's survive. ($$$$, 6 digit prices for real
by TylerE 4y ago
Hardly unique to gaming.
In the guitar world it's a running joke that only 5000 of the the 1500 1959 Gibson Les Paul's survive.
($$$$, 6 digit prices for real ones is the rule, and top examples go for $500k+).
- jandrese 4y agoIt has been said you could build a nice house out of the fragments of the True Cross on display throughout the world.
- paulpauper 4y agoI wonder how much fragments would be worth at auction (i'm sure Paul Allen tried and was denied)
- sweettea 4y agoOne Charles de Fleury catalogued pieces of the true cross in the 1800s and found them to sum to 2% of a plausibly sized cross, not the oft-repeated claim that they add up to a large ship, or a nice house: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Cross#Dispersal_of_relics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True_Cross#Dispersal_of_relics paragraph 6. While perhaps biased, it does seem plausible that a cataloguing of such claimed relics today would add up to a similar total volume.
- bombcar 4y agoI suspect the saying comes from a time more in the past when many many false relics would abound. Once the fervor around them died off, any ones deemed fake would disappear from circulation and the total amount would dwindle.
- jjoonathan 4y agoWell, the total amount would dwindle.
- whatshisface 4y agoSince the fragments were said to come from a single piece of wood in Constantinople (see the article linked above), it is not that surprising that their sum would be reasonable. Clearer-cut and a little more entertaining are the thirty or more "holy nails:" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Nail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Nail That said, I'd like to know the carbon date on those wooden fragments.
- TheCoelacanth 4y agoThe famous John Calvin quote about relics comes from 1543, and many of the other quotes come from before 1000, while that catalogue is from the 1870. In between comes the Protestant Reformation, more than a century of religious wars across all of Europe where one side in many cases actively sought to destroy relics and the gradual conversion to Islam of many densely populated Christian areas. A catalogue from the 1870 is next to worthless for telling us how many relics existed in the early 1500s.
- Archelaos 4y agoBut everyone knows, that the number of relics increases over time. For each one lost, two new ones appear. So if we had 2% of the true cross in 1870, perhaps we had only 1% in 1543. Someone needs to update the catalogue. When we see how much we have today, we can estimate, when the cross crosses 100%. In the year 3451? (The Hobbes theory.)
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- Aeolun 4y ago> A catalogue from the 1870 is next to worthless for telling us how many relics existed in the early 1500s. I thought we were talking about how many are on display? What does the number of fragments that existed in the 1500s matter?
- TheCoelacanth 4y agoThe claim that you could build a house out of the fragments comes from the 1500s, so that's the number that matters if you're checking the veracity of that claim. There are far less now that Protestants spent a century destroying purported fragments.
- gumby 4y agoAnd the buddha would have to have been 10 feet tall for all the relics in the various stupas of the world to be real. Frankly though, I consider authenticity overrated.
- xsmasher 4y ago> “And don't succumb too much to the spell of these cases. I have seen many other fragments of the cross, in other churches. If all were genuine, our Lord's torment could not have been on a couple of planks nailed together, but on an entire forest.' 'Master!' I said, shocked. 'So it is, Adso. And there are ever richer treasuries. Some time ago, in the cathedral of Cologne, I saw the skull of John the Baptist at the age of twelve.' 'Really?' I exclaimed, amazed. Then, siezed by doubt, I added, 'But the Baptist was executed at a more advanced age!' 'The other skull must be in another treasury,' William said, with a grave face. I never understood when he was jesting.” ― Umberto Eco, The Name of the Rose
- mikepurvis 4y agoChristopher Buckley (of Thank You For Smoking fame) did a funny book recently called The Relic Hunter that satirizes this situation in a Middle Ages context.
- _the_inflator 4y agoSame goes for vinyl. I love techno music from the 90th. It seems that there is an abundance of vinyl that magically survived 20 years of niche existence. Especially records from the legendary Harthouse label, seems to be ubiquitously available. Harthouse was famous for its limited edition policy and restricted selling of its records. They were very selective and that's how the famous "sound of Frankfurt" was born: access to Harthouse records was limited, and distribution took mainly place here in Frankfurt. It was tough back then to buy certain records even in the famous Delirium store. Nowadays you simply place an order in the Internets...
- panspermia 4y agoYou're just describing Discogs and a genre with little to no demand, now, in the present time.
- pwython 4y agoI just watched a video a few days ago comparing a $200 guitar to a $200,000 (Hauser) guitar. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPY9Mxg3OJQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPY9Mxg3OJQ Long story short, go for the $700-$2k guitar unless you're an "art collector" that will never play it. Then again, I doubt many people can tell the difference between a $200 guitar and a $700 one.
- TylerE 4y agoI'd say there's some wiggle room there - I own lots of guitars, the most expensive of which would retail for about $5k today (I paid maybe half that when I got it ~15 years ago). Once you get past a certain price, you're paying more for different (e.g. custom build) rather than better. I'm a weirdo in that I generally like modern (even ultramodern, I own a Strandberg) - guitars for playability - thinner necks, comfort contours, that sort of thing, but vintage for tone...so I have a couple I've commissioned that try to combine the best of both worlds. Here are two of mine: https://i.imgur.com/pVQiOfC.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/pVQiOfC.jpeg They both look like weird, but both have vintage roots... The one on the left is heavily inspired by vintage Gibsons in the ways that mattger... neck and body are korina, the top (very not vintage) is flamed Hawaiian Koa. The one on the right is basically my take on a Fender Strat... but headless (better weight distribution, and allows for the..) and with an excellent modern tremolo bridge.
- wilsonnb3 4y agoIt is astounding how good of a guitar you can get for a few hundred dollars these days. My Yamaha FG800 cost $200 and is probably 70-80% as good as my Martin that cost $1300. There is even less of a difference between cheap and expensive electric guitars. Especially if you learn to do a good setup yourself and replace the pickups.
- TylerE 4y agoI would disagree, unless you're willing to rewire the whole thing. Just about every cheap electric I've ever seen has shitty pots, bad or no shielding, maybe even bad grounding. Hum sucks.
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- jdsfighter 4y agoIt's also crazy how disparate the values of older guitars are as well. I inherited a pristine 1975 Gibson Les Paul Deluxe Blue Sparkle; one of 250 made. Despite its rarity, it's not a super high demand guitar, so it barely clears 4-5 figures.
- arprocter 4y agoI just found your Reddit post - that's a beauty Back in the day my old man parted ways with a 60s Tele - he doesn't appreciate being reminded about it
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