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When watching the CarPlay part of the most recent Apple event, I was struck by Apple's current approach vs. Tesla's. Apple wants to be the operating system for

When watching the CarPlay part of the most recent Apple event, I was struck by Apple's current approach vs. Tesla's. Apple wants to be the operating system for all cars/hardware (ala Microsoft Windows) and Tesla is trying to be the Apple of cars (integrated hardware+software). Not a perfect comparison but if Apple dominates the entire industry, there will be space for a premium alternative (even if it's not Tesla).

nojito 4y ago
CarPlay is a deciding factor why people buy certain cars. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/29/apple-carplay-massive-success-paves-way-for-automotive-entry.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/29/apple-carplay-massive-succes...
- josefresco 4y ago
  I personally don't get it. Besides Google Maps/Apple Maps and Waze, the apps I've used on CarPlay are terrible. Specifically SiriusXM and YouTube Music. I think these people think they want CarPlay because it seems like a big upgrade over their old car stereo - however once you start to actually use the platform (IMHO) it's not great. One of my vehicles has an average built in GPS, and my phone auto connects no CarPlay needed - it works great and the car interface (SirusXM) with touch screen and actual buttons is 100% easier to operate then the apps.
  - parkingrift 4y ago
    >Besides Google Maps/Apple Maps and Waze You just hand waved the single biggest reason people want CarPlay. I will not buy a car without CarPlay because of Maps.
  - ectospheno 4y ago
    I drive a lot of rentals. The infotainment provided by every major car manufacturer is hot garbage. A car without CarPlay won’t be considered by me at all when making a purchase.
  - mobileexpert 4y ago
    CarPlay is an absolute must for me for Maps/GPS. No other system I’ve used comes close. (I haven’t driven a Tesla). Siri is also miles better than most in car voice systems including integrated Alexa.
    - SxC97 4y ago
      I've driven a Tesla but haven't used carplay yet. Personally, I found the Tesla UI to be confusing. Lots of settings weirdly hidden in the menus, no physical controls have been kind of annoying, and lots of important bits of info are not easily readable. Things like ETA are shown in super tiny, low contrast font and lane guidance only shows up ~30s before you need to take your exit.
  - lostgame 4y ago
    >> Besides Google Maps/Apple Maps and Waze ‘Besides search, why would anyone use Google?’ You can’t remove the headliner from a show and ask why people still come.
  - peanut_worm 4y ago
    At least in my car, CarPlay is much, much better than the default infotainment interface. I don’t even have access to maps without carplay.
  - canaus 4y ago
    Yea, I agree with you. I pull out my MapQuest directions and everyone thinks I'm crazy. There's really nothing better than hard-copy directions because you have to truly know where you're going. I don't really care though since I can barely hear them over my cassette tapes blaring through my sound-system and the wind blowing through my manual windows.
  - hansthehorse 4y ago
    In dash display of the OBS2 data in real time would be great. I wonder if that will ever be a thing.
    - SxC97 4y ago
      Not exactly what you're after, but you can export data from your OBD2 port to something like home assistant[1]. Combined with an autoPi[2], you might be able to pull this off today if you really wanted to. [1] - https://childof69.co.uk/ha-car-telemetry/ https://childof69.co.uk/ha-car-telemetry/ [2] - https://www.autopi.io/blog/build-a-raspberry-pi-touch-screen-car-computer/ https://www.autopi.io/blog/build-a-raspberry-pi-touch-screen...
gamblor956 4y ago
The auto industry has learned from the mistakes of the app industry. They absolutely will not let Apple dominate, because that's a Trojan Horse they can see coming. Additionally, half of this country uses Android, which does not work with CarPlay, and doesn't work with the newly announced CarPlay OS. Automakers aren't going to shut themselves off from half of their potential buyers for Apple's benefit.
- rusticpenn 4y ago
  I know that German automotive is currently considering apple as it’s biggest threat.

nojito 4y ago

CarPlay is a deciding factor why people buy certain cars. https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/29/apple-carplay-massive-success-paves-way-for-automotive-entry.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/29/apple-carplay-massive-succes...

josefresco 4y ago
I personally don't get it. Besides Google Maps/Apple Maps and Waze, the apps I've used on CarPlay are terrible. Specifically SiriusXM and YouTube Music. I think these people think they want CarPlay because it seems like a big upgrade over their old car stereo - however once you start to actually use the platform (IMHO) it's not great. One of my vehicles has an average built in GPS, and my phone auto connects no CarPlay needed - it works great and the car interface (SirusXM) with touch screen and actual buttons is 100% easier to operate then the apps.
- parkingrift 4y ago
  >Besides Google Maps/Apple Maps and Waze You just hand waved the single biggest reason people want CarPlay. I will not buy a car without CarPlay because of Maps.
- ectospheno 4y ago
  I drive a lot of rentals. The infotainment provided by every major car manufacturer is hot garbage. A car without CarPlay won’t be considered by me at all when making a purchase.
- mobileexpert 4y ago
  CarPlay is an absolute must for me for Maps/GPS. No other system I’ve used comes close. (I haven’t driven a Tesla). Siri is also miles better than most in car voice systems including integrated Alexa.
  - SxC97 4y ago
    I've driven a Tesla but haven't used carplay yet. Personally, I found the Tesla UI to be confusing. Lots of settings weirdly hidden in the menus, no physical controls have been kind of annoying, and lots of important bits of info are not easily readable. Things like ETA are shown in super tiny, low contrast font and lane guidance only shows up ~30s before you need to take your exit.
- lostgame 4y ago
  >> Besides Google Maps/Apple Maps and Waze ‘Besides search, why would anyone use Google?’ You can’t remove the headliner from a show and ask why people still come.
- peanut_worm 4y ago
  At least in my car, CarPlay is much, much better than the default infotainment interface. I don’t even have access to maps without carplay.
- canaus 4y ago
  Yea, I agree with you. I pull out my MapQuest directions and everyone thinks I'm crazy. There's really nothing better than hard-copy directions because you have to truly know where you're going. I don't really care though since I can barely hear them over my cassette tapes blaring through my sound-system and the wind blowing through my manual windows.
- hansthehorse 4y ago
  In dash display of the OBS2 data in real time would be great. I wonder if that will ever be a thing.
  - SxC97 4y ago
    Not exactly what you're after, but you can export data from your OBD2 port to something like home assistant[1]. Combined with an autoPi[2], you might be able to pull this off today if you really wanted to. [1] - https://childof69.co.uk/ha-car-telemetry/ https://childof69.co.uk/ha-car-telemetry/ [2] - https://www.autopi.io/blog/build-a-raspberry-pi-touch-screen-car-computer/ https://www.autopi.io/blog/build-a-raspberry-pi-touch-screen...

gamblor956 4y ago

The auto industry has learned from the mistakes of the app industry. They absolutely will not let Apple dominate, because that's a Trojan Horse they can see coming. Additionally, half of this country uses Android, which does not work with CarPlay, and doesn't work with the newly announced CarPlay OS. Automakers aren't going to shut themselves off from half of their potential buyers for Apple's benefit.

rusticpenn 4y ago
I know that German automotive is currently considering apple as it’s biggest threat.