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What recommendations do you all have for alternatives?
by mproud 4y ago
What recommendations do you all have for alternatives?
- kevinwang 4y agoI think the reason it's unused these days is because it's largely been replaced by vscode
- Grazester 4y agoVisual Studio Code is the most obvious. I actually forgot Atom existed. I move from it to VSC because Atom was just such a resource hog.
- Night_Thastus 4y agoVSCode seems to be the go-to for most.
- shusaku 4y agoSublime I guess. I made the switch awhile back because if just how much snappier it is, but it’s sad to see Atom go with all its nice add-ons…
- mtkd 4y agoI moved from Sublime to Atom ... "Atom community involvement has declined significantly" Probably because it works well enough, some tools don't need endless enhancing
- sph 4y agovim -> Sublime -> Emacs -> VSCode -> Emacs ^^^^^ I am here.
- ollien 4y agoand then vim again. It will come full circle :)
- melling 4y agovim bindings in Emacs. :-)
- kklimonda 4y agovim bindings in Emacs are so great that when something isn't implemented properly (eg. editing macros, global marks) it hurts so much more.
- ollien 4y agoI end up with vim bindings in VSCode at the present. It doesn't do everything but it does most things I want. There is neovim integration, but last time I tried it there were a bunch of glitchy things that didn't work right (I remember selection being buggy but I can't remember the specifics). Maybe I'll have to give it another whirl.
- sph 4y agoI went for evil-mode for a while, then I decided to just go full Emacs. I still use vim sometimes, but I've come to enjoy the Emacs bindings. Now I just need to install keymapper and convert all my M-w and C-y inputs to Ctrl-C and Ctrl-V.
- indymike 4y agoWhy use and editor when you can use an operating system? Really love all the editing options. It's a good time to be a developer.
- rgoulter 4y agoIf you're retaining vim on your workstation for quick editing of files, I'd encourage you to keep an eye on the Helix editor. https://helix-editor.com/ https://helix-editor.com/ There are three nice things about it: it flips vim's <verb><motion> into a <motion><verb> (like kakoune); it's got tree-sitter support out of the box (including for navigation); it's got LSP support out of the box. Its keybinding is perhaps in "uncanny valley" of vim's. Overall, it still feels well thought out.
- sph 4y agoI've tried, but it's still a little immature for me. Definitely an interesting idea worth exploring more. And the reason I went back to Emacs is because of elisp and M-x. Those are the true killer features of that editor, still unrivaled.
- gaetgu 4y agoYep. I am waiting for its plugin support to come out to start really using it but I have it installed and I use it from time to time. It is pretty nice!
- akagusu 4y agoMy path: Sublime -> Atom -> Vim -> Emacs -> Emacs -> Emacs -> Emacs
- ARandomerDude 4y agovim -> Sublime -> vim -> Emacs -> vim -> VSCode -> vim ^^^ I am here.
- Nicksil 4y agoSublime Text https://www.sublimetext.com/ https://www.sublimetext.com/
- jlduan 4y agoVSCodium
- bitwize 4y agoHonestly? Emacs. Gonna be around for at least as long as RMS is still alive. I'd accept Vim as a runner-up; I'm conversant in it and can see where people might prefer it (though honestly, those people should probably enable evil-mode in emacs). But realistically? A significant majority of developers use Visual Studio Code; Atom is still only being used by absolute diehards. Visual Studio Code's complete supplantation of Atom (with which it competes for resources in the same organization) is why we're having this discussion.
- pantulis 4y agoI used to say that investing some time in becoming proficient with Emacs (the One True Editor!) or vim will deliver returns over a lifetime-spanning career. But Visual Studio Code has already joined them and it is a pretty sensible editor platform to learn. Also totally subject for discussion: I suspect VS Code will see more innovation in years to come.
- natrys 4y agoRMS hadn't been involved with any technical contribution or project level decision making for a while. I would say people like Eli Zaretskii are far more important. While there is no shortage of people willing to hack on elisp, I get the feeling that people who can hack on the C core, and possessing deep knowledge of core subsystems is slowly dwindling. But I do think Emacs will be fine. I don't think VSCode is an existential threat to Emacs in the same way Toyota is not a threat to Lamborghini. VSCode boasts impressive numbers, but it does so by consolidating in a target demography that was never a stronghold for Emacs to begin with - partly due to some level of indifference on its part. On the other hand, there are things Emacs is uniquely suited for, and for that reason it will continue to attract a particular type. I think in terms of absolute numbers Emacs userbase is still increasing, and I think falling numbers in terms of total percentage doesn't mean much for its survival.
- philliphaydon 4y agoI like brackets but always ends up in VSCode due to extensions.
- tristan957 4y agoBrackets in nearing end of life or is already at that point. Adobe announced it a while ago.
- philliphaydon 4y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26341931 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26341931 Just found this. It’s a shame. I donno why but I just liked brackets interface.
- Santosh83 4y agoIn this case a community of devs seem to have picked up the code base, forked it, and is actively developing. So its not exactly dead.
- philliphaydon 4y agoOh that’s cool. Maybe that will happen with atom too.
- SenHeng 4y agoAnother Brackets user! There must be dozens of us! I used Brackets too back then and tried Atom a few times but it was always too slow and laggy. I was so glad when VSCode came out and that it was actually good. I was in the midst of switching to VIM but it was just too much of a bother.
- corrral 4y agoIt's a very dumb reason to stick with an editor, but I have trouble going back to Sublime after VSCode despite preferring most things about Sublime, because I always forget how to manage packages using Sublime's command prompt and have to screw around with it for a while each time, while VSCode has a GUI for that so the memorization required is zero, and can easily browse available packages without bouncing out to a browser, and it often prompts me to install relevant plugins so it's just a matter of clicking "OK". Every time I try to go back to Sublime, this annoys me right off the bat and I'm back in VSCode by the end of the day.
- wly_cdgr 4y agoWebStorm and the rest of the IntelliJ suite
- ghshephard 4y agoThere are a couple credible alternatives that get a lot of maintenance (I use them both for 3+ hours a day): If you are coding: Unless you are using IntelliJ (which a ton of of my colleagues do, and love) - it's a vscode world. Everyone at every company I've seen bangs away using that. It's kind of amazing how much inertia it's picked up (currently). If you are working with text: 90% of the time if I have a couple gigabytes of text I need to do a lot of work with - it's Sublime Text. Actively Developed. A really solid text plugin architecture. The other 10% of the time I still use vim - mostly because it's in my finger DNA. Emacs is the obvious alternative which lots of smart people I know use. I'd be interested in knowing if there are people who have used all five of these for > 100 hours that would recommend something else - (I haven't used Emacs that much - but I have well over a couple hundred hours on each of intelliJ/vscode/vim/Sublime. Probably close to 1000+ hours on the last three). (okay, small fib - close to 5,000+ hours on Sublime. I spend almost as much time in that tool as I do bash).
- acwan93 4y agoI really wanted to use Coda (now Nova [1]) from Panic, but I kept coming back to VSCode. VSCode seems to be the path of least resistance. I think I’ll try it again after seeing the news about Atom. [1]: https://nova.app/ https://nova.app/
- trinsic2 4y agoIsn't this for MacOS only? Sorry, [I just left Windows](https://www.scottrlarson.com/publications/publication-transition-windows-to-linux/ https://www.scottrlarson.com/publications/publication-transi...) recently for it's anti-customer changes in Windows 11, Apple is way worse than Microsoft regarding its anti-choice position on all its products.
- drcongo 4y agoI bought and really wanted to love Nova, but I just didn't. It's so clunky compared to ST.
- derbOac 4y agoI've used many text editors back and forth and keep going back to Kate. It's what I use now. I'm not sure I'd say it's the best choice for everyone but it's what works for me the best it seems.
- forgingahead 4y agoBBEdit.
- wsc981 4y agoI’ve used Sublime Text for many many years now and it’s still my favorite text editor. I mainly use it for writing small reminders as well as Lua / LÖVE dev.
- ilrwbwrkhv 4y agoI don't know why anyone would ever move away from Sublime Text in the first place.
- adregan 4y ago~10 years ago I was a Sublime 2 user surrounded by sad TextMate users—sad because TextMate had stagnated and was clearly on its way out and "everyone" had jumped to Sublime. When Atom was released, Sublime became the editor in decline. It seemed to me that there would always be an endless cycle of boom and bust with editors. It was a cycle with more in common with fashion than craft, and I wondered if I might end up wasting an inordinate amount of time switching editors throughout my career without any upside. So rather than switch to Atom, only to switch again a few years later, I set about with adopting Vim. The choice seems to have been correct as there will always be a new editor (that's more or less the same as the old editor) that catches hold, but I wanted stability. Vim gives me stability, and the only other editor I'd consider would be Emacs for similar reasons.
- akagusu 4y agoJust buy a license for Sublime Text or any intelliJ IDE. If you use your text editor professionally, they more than worth the investment. And if you want to build a text editor for your own needs, Emacs and Neovim are your friends.
- ghishadow 4y agohttps://github.com/lapce/lapce https://github.com/lapce/lapce is slowly becoming my favourite editor specially for writing Rust.