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For some reason I figured HN was immune to the classic gun talking points. Maybe clarify what you mean by "assault weapons" as the general populous does not hav

For some reason I figured HN was immune to the classic gun talking points. Maybe clarify what you mean by "assault weapons" as the general populous does not have easy access to what could be construed as "assault weapons". Not even law-abiding citizens. Despite the warnings of the Founding Fathers. "A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies." ~ George Washington Military supplies. Not "civilianized" equipment.

the_only_law 4y ago
> For some reason I figured HN was immune to the classic gun talking points. People on this thread are using the word "literally" as a source for their claims, I wouldn't expect too much from this site, at least highly political threads.
dekhn 4y ago
I imagine another america: one where every able-bodied teenager is trained to use a gun, how to clean it, and store/operate it safely. And they spend some amount of time in a militia group (the leaders can keep an eye to identify the folks who seem dangerous), and ultimately, every able-bodied adult keeps a gun at home for homeland defense. I have no idea how it would work in practice, but I think it might go a long way to address how people operate with guns.
- seanw444 4y ago
  Sounds like a dream come true to me, and once again, the OGs. "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." ~ Richard Henry Lee "What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." ~ Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun." ~ Patrick Henry
  - dekhn 4y ago
    To be clear, I want these militias for defence against external invaders, not to protect people from the US government.
    - seanw444 4y ago
      There will inevitably come a time when they are one and the same.
- TMWNN 4y ago
  >I have no idea how it would work in practice What you describe is basically Switzerland and Israel.
  - dekhn 4y ago
    Right. But trying to do this in the US (which is very different from those two countries in many ways) could fail entirely for reasons that wouldn't apply at all in those.
Bud 4y ago
Please don’t waste intelligent people’s time with the usual right-wing bullshit about how an AR-15 is radically different from military hardware and should not count as an assault weapon. Doesn’t pass the laugh test.
- seanw444 4y ago
  They are not select-fire. They are not assault rifles. Being intelligent with code doesn't make you knowledgeable on firearms.

the_only_law 4y ago

> For some reason I figured HN was immune to the classic gun talking points. People on this thread are using the word "literally" as a source for their claims, I wouldn't expect too much from this site, at least highly political threads.

dekhn 4y ago

I imagine another america: one where every able-bodied teenager is trained to use a gun, how to clean it, and store/operate it safely. And they spend some amount of time in a militia group (the leaders can keep an eye to identify the folks who seem dangerous), and ultimately, every able-bodied adult keeps a gun at home for homeland defense. I have no idea how it would work in practice, but I think it might go a long way to address how people operate with guns.

seanw444 4y ago
Sounds like a dream come true to me, and once again, the OGs. "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body of the people always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." ~ Richard Henry Lee "What, Sir, is the use of a militia? It is to prevent the establishment of a standing army, the bane of liberty .... Whenever governments mean to invade the rights and liberties of the people, they always attempt to destroy the militia, in order to raise an army upon their ruins." ~ Rep. Elbridge Gerry of Massachusetts "Guard with jealous attention the public liberty. Suspect everyone who approaches that jewel. Unfortunately, nothing will preserve it but downright force. Whenever you give up that force, you are ruined. The great object is that every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun." ~ Patrick Henry
- dekhn 4y ago
  To be clear, I want these militias for defence against external invaders, not to protect people from the US government.
  - seanw444 4y ago
    There will inevitably come a time when they are one and the same.
TMWNN 4y ago
>I have no idea how it would work in practice What you describe is basically Switzerland and Israel.
- dekhn 4y ago
  Right. But trying to do this in the US (which is very different from those two countries in many ways) could fail entirely for reasons that wouldn't apply at all in those.

Bud 4y ago

Please don’t waste intelligent people’s time with the usual right-wing bullshit about how an AR-15 is radically different from military hardware and should not count as an assault weapon. Doesn’t pass the laugh test.

seanw444 4y ago
They are not select-fire. They are not assault rifles. Being intelligent with code doesn't make you knowledgeable on firearms.