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I don't think pre-modern conflicts can be framed under the modern concept of genocide very well. In any case the Mongols did not set out to obliterate specific
by Glyptodon 4y ago
I don't think pre-modern conflicts can be framed under the modern concept of genocide very well. In any case the Mongols did not set out to obliterate specific groups because of ethnicity, race, religion, etc., per se. Maybe wanting tribute or territory is a stupid reason to obliterate a city, but it's not motivated by ethnic or racial animus. Similarly, revenge on an empire for the death of ambassadors that leads to the utter destruction and death of said empire's populace is maybe technically genocide under the "destroying a nation" framing, but it doesn't fit into the modern cultural framing of nations in a nationalistic cultural sense, and would be considered a traditional casus belli. In any case I don't deny that they were rapacious, violent, expansive, or killed disproportionate numbers of people and reduced populated (for the time period) empires to grassland. But it was all very practical, not based on hate, and is totally in line with what other empires and civilizations would do in the time period if they had the means.
- 1123581321 4y agoGood comment; thank you.
- ramblerman 4y ago> It was all very practical, not based on hate Lol, this seems a bit naive. It's hard to rape and pillage people you like. Do you think we've lost the plot a little bit when you have to do these mental gymnastics to distinguish between murdering an entire nation out of some "approved" reason, vs say out of ethnic reasons. Surely the real crime is murdering a nation.