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This looks amazing, but also likely to be ignored/ruined by vehicle manufactures who want to push their own UI.

tailspin2019 4y ago
I noted BMW weren't in the initial list of supported manufacturers. They're probably working on their new monthly subscription plans for "activating" this feature...
- throw457 4y ago
  BMW made a 180 with their infotainment system in the new BMW iX the old one in the i-series was at least usable.
joezydeco 4y ago
Honestly it makes no sense to show it as a full-dash replacement. That means the car has to ship with an iOS device or the owner is required to always have one plugged in? I see this more as "here's some early Apple Car UI that you all can play with and tell us what works and what doesn't, and maybe one of you developers in the audience will make something interesting we can eventually steal". The concept images are compelling but you won't see this in any new car any time soon.
- ricardobeat 4y ago
  Just like current CarPlay, the car has its own UI that can run standalone, it just gets replaced by the iOS one when active.
  - joezydeco 4y ago
    So let me see if I understand the economics here. I'm an automaker and I want a fancy UI on my dash (like Tesla or EQS). So I put in the big screen and then add the Apple extensions to allow CarPlay 2. But what do I ship with the car? A cheap and quick UI with basic features, or do I have to write a second fancy UI that looks good in the showroom, on test drives, and when the battery dies in the phone? How much time and money do I spend on that? If I'm Toyota and shipping cheap Corollas, what kind of screen do I pay for on that car? Triple-wide LCDs aren't exactly a commodity part. So is CarPlay 2 something only for expensive cars?
    - ricardobeat 4y ago
      Every automaker already ships their own UI. CarPlay is an extra feature.
- wilsonnb3 4y ago
  It means the car has to have it’s own UI that you can choose to replace with CarPlay, which is exactly how it works right now. Alternatively a car could just come with the guts of an Apple TV built in to run an unconnected version of CarPlay when an iPhone is not connected.
  - warning26 4y ago
    That's what I'm wondering -- is this something comparable to Android Automotive where the car's UI itself is powered by Android?
ra7 4y ago
None of them are ever going to implement this and cede control of the entire instrument cluster and infotainment area to Apple.
- netsharc 4y ago
  I wonder if Apple can strong-arm themselves into doing so. "Dear car manufacturer, [insert high percentage here]% of people who buy your cars use iPhones. If you want iPhone connectivity, we want the deep integration, or you and your customers get nothing, and they'll buy [competitor brand] instead.".

tailspin2019 4y ago

I noted BMW weren't in the initial list of supported manufacturers. They're probably working on their new monthly subscription plans for "activating" this feature...

throw457 4y ago
BMW made a 180 with their infotainment system in the new BMW iX the old one in the i-series was at least usable.

joezydeco 4y ago

Honestly it makes no sense to show it as a full-dash replacement. That means the car has to ship with an iOS device or the owner is required to always have one plugged in? I see this more as "here's some early Apple Car UI that you all can play with and tell us what works and what doesn't, and maybe one of you developers in the audience will make something interesting we can eventually steal". The concept images are compelling but you won't see this in any new car any time soon.

ricardobeat 4y ago
Just like current CarPlay, the car has its own UI that can run standalone, it just gets replaced by the iOS one when active.
- joezydeco 4y ago
  So let me see if I understand the economics here. I'm an automaker and I want a fancy UI on my dash (like Tesla or EQS). So I put in the big screen and then add the Apple extensions to allow CarPlay 2. But what do I ship with the car? A cheap and quick UI with basic features, or do I have to write a second fancy UI that looks good in the showroom, on test drives, and when the battery dies in the phone? How much time and money do I spend on that? If I'm Toyota and shipping cheap Corollas, what kind of screen do I pay for on that car? Triple-wide LCDs aren't exactly a commodity part. So is CarPlay 2 something only for expensive cars?
  - ricardobeat 4y ago
    Every automaker already ships their own UI. CarPlay is an extra feature.
wilsonnb3 4y ago
It means the car has to have it’s own UI that you can choose to replace with CarPlay, which is exactly how it works right now. Alternatively a car could just come with the guts of an Apple TV built in to run an unconnected version of CarPlay when an iPhone is not connected.
- warning26 4y ago
  That's what I'm wondering -- is this something comparable to Android Automotive where the car's UI itself is powered by Android?

ra7 4y ago

None of them are ever going to implement this and cede control of the entire instrument cluster and infotainment area to Apple.

netsharc 4y ago
I wonder if Apple can strong-arm themselves into doing so. "Dear car manufacturer, [insert high percentage here]% of people who buy your cars use iPhones. If you want iPhone connectivity, we want the deep integration, or you and your customers get nothing, and they'll buy [competitor brand] instead.".