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I live in Oregon, and I went for long drive last weekend. I tried to charge twice at Electrify America charging stations... and both had lines of people waitin

I live in Oregon, and I went for long drive last weekend. I tried to charge twice at Electrify America charging stations... and both had lines of people waiting! I will appreciate this.

pkulak 4y ago
I did pledge years ago that my next car was going to be electric only, but now there are a bunch of 30+ mile plugin hybrids, and some of these stories about chargers make it sound like it hasn't gotten any better than when I had my Leaf about 8 years ago. Maybe I want to use gas for road trips and electric for everything else...
- chrisjc 4y ago
  > Maybe I want to use gas for road trips and electric for everything else... This is effectively my setup. Got an SUV for all those bigger, longer hauls, and a little 60-90 mile range VW eGolf for "around the town" trips. This weekend we used the SUV and filled up for the first time in about 1-1.5 months and couldn't believe my eyes when I saw $75 after the pump stopped. Unfortunately, I just don't feel comfortable without having a fuel based option in the garage. Although the new F-150 lightning with range-extender (only a patent atm) and a price drop (yeah right) might convince me otherwise.
- formvoltron 4y ago
  If you don't go on longer road trips very often then maybe just rent a car when you need one for a road trip.
- ZacharyPitts 4y ago
  I used to feel that way, then I got an electric car with a 250 mile range last year. I really have not felt the desire to ever have a gasoline car since. Hybrids have so many more parts needed, that I feel like they will simply have more problems long term. In an EV, there's not much that will ever need to get replaced due to "wear" other than tires and brakes. As for charging, this last weekend was the first time I've ever had a problem finding a charger on 300 mile days. Most people I know don't even go on as many long drives as I do, as I enjoy driving for driving sake. I have zero plans on gasoline ever again.
  - azinman2 4y ago
    Same, although the very rare road trip is more annoying. I can always rent an ICE in these situations. Totally worth it otherwise, especially as I watch fuel prices go up.
    - Scoundreller 4y ago
      Yeah, if you get unlimited miles, it makes A LOT of sense to rent. I've done weekend trips covering 1000km and wondered that I should have rented for the weekend because it would be more economical to put the meterage on vehicle that isn't my own. Plus if I have a mechanical issue, it's the rental companies problem, not mine.
      - sokoloff 4y ago
        Genuine question: is the use of “meterage” the common/standard way to refer to the total distance a car has traveled (as we would use “mileage” in the US)?
        Scoundreller 4y ago
        No; but I want it to be
        epgui 4y ago
        Here's an upvote and a high-five for using civilized units!
  - sokoloff 4y ago
    The Toyota HSD has had remarkably good service life and results across almost 20 years now. Is it going to be 100% as good as a BEV? Probably not. Would I bet on it economically reaching 250K miles without major drama? I would.
  - rootusrootus 4y ago
    Same here. The little extra time I spend on the road trip we make twice or three times a year to grandma's house is more than offset by the 10 minutes a week I don't spend putting gas in. I never want to give up home fueling.
- cbsks 4y ago
  I have a Chrysler Pacifica plug-in hybrid. For my use case it is absolutely perfect. It gets about 30 miles of range on a charge which is more than enough for dropping the kids off at school and running errands around town. The battery charges just fine overnight from a regular 120V outlet so there’s no need to upgrade the power in the garage. And the occasional road trip is super easy.
- jliptzin 4y ago
  I have had a tesla for 3 years and have never had a problem at the supercharger even once

I live in Oregon, and I went for long drive last weekend. I tried to charge twice at Electrify America charging stations... and both had lines of people waiting! I will appreciate this.

pkulak 4y ago

I did pledge years ago that my next car was going to be electric only, but now there are a bunch of 30+ mile plugin hybrids, and some of these stories about chargers make it sound like it hasn't gotten any better than when I had my Leaf about 8 years ago. Maybe I want to use gas for road trips and electric for everything else...

chrisjc 4y ago
> Maybe I want to use gas for road trips and electric for everything else... This is effectively my setup. Got an SUV for all those bigger, longer hauls, and a little 60-90 mile range VW eGolf for "around the town" trips. This weekend we used the SUV and filled up for the first time in about 1-1.5 months and couldn't believe my eyes when I saw $75 after the pump stopped. Unfortunately, I just don't feel comfortable without having a fuel based option in the garage. Although the new F-150 lightning with range-extender (only a patent atm) and a price drop (yeah right) might convince me otherwise.
formvoltron 4y ago
If you don't go on longer road trips very often then maybe just rent a car when you need one for a road trip.
ZacharyPitts 4y ago
I used to feel that way, then I got an electric car with a 250 mile range last year. I really have not felt the desire to ever have a gasoline car since. Hybrids have so many more parts needed, that I feel like they will simply have more problems long term. In an EV, there's not much that will ever need to get replaced due to "wear" other than tires and brakes. As for charging, this last weekend was the first time I've ever had a problem finding a charger on 300 mile days. Most people I know don't even go on as many long drives as I do, as I enjoy driving for driving sake. I have zero plans on gasoline ever again.
- azinman2 4y ago
  Same, although the very rare road trip is more annoying. I can always rent an ICE in these situations. Totally worth it otherwise, especially as I watch fuel prices go up.
  - Scoundreller 4y ago
    Yeah, if you get unlimited miles, it makes A LOT of sense to rent. I've done weekend trips covering 1000km and wondered that I should have rented for the weekend because it would be more economical to put the meterage on vehicle that isn't my own. Plus if I have a mechanical issue, it's the rental companies problem, not mine.
    - sokoloff 4y ago
      Genuine question: is the use of “meterage” the common/standard way to refer to the total distance a car has traveled (as we would use “mileage” in the US)?
      - Scoundreller 4y ago
        No; but I want it to be
        epgui 4y ago
        Here's an upvote and a high-five for using civilized units!
- sokoloff 4y ago
  The Toyota HSD has had remarkably good service life and results across almost 20 years now. Is it going to be 100% as good as a BEV? Probably not. Would I bet on it economically reaching 250K miles without major drama? I would.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  Same here. The little extra time I spend on the road trip we make twice or three times a year to grandma's house is more than offset by the 10 minutes a week I don't spend putting gas in. I never want to give up home fueling.
cbsks 4y ago
I have a Chrysler Pacifica plug-in hybrid. For my use case it is absolutely perfect. It gets about 30 miles of range on a charge which is more than enough for dropping the kids off at school and running errands around town. The battery charges just fine overnight from a regular 120V outlet so there’s no need to upgrade the power in the garage. And the occasional road trip is super easy.
jliptzin 4y ago
I have had a tesla for 3 years and have never had a problem at the supercharger even once