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The day someone proposes solutions to the dynamics of people in the work place will be a good day. I've run simulations of subject matter similar to this. The c

The day someone proposes solutions to the dynamics of people in the work place will be a good day. I've run simulations of subject matter similar to this. The complexity is brutal, and so far I've come up dry in actionable work topologies, all of them are vulnerable to certain types of jerks...

incone123 4y ago
Could you link to anything you've published or could recommend? Sounds interesting even if you don't have anything actionable.
- crabbygrabby 4y ago
  It's all unpublished unfortunately. I don't work in this field, I just started doing it because I have had such a rough ride in industry and needed to work on some kind of plan for setting up a company that wasn't riddled with the toxic stuff I've experienced. Maybe I'll share some code at some point.
  - zmgsabst 4y ago
    I’ll second the request you write a blog post. Your simulations sound fascinating.
eternalban 4y ago
Set up a protocol to identify misbehaving agents and get rid of them. Also guessing that your model does not include an affinity factor. "Certain types of jerks" are attracted to certain types of organizations. I'm reaching here but maybe some old HP hands can chime in - what sort of people did the original HP attract? I'm guessing like attracts like. "HP's founders were very remarkable people at all levels, starting with Bill and Dave." https://hpmemoryproject.org/timeline/stories/Bill&DaveStory170812.pdf https://hpmemoryproject.org/timeline/stories/Bill&DaveStory1... Possibly the fish rots from the head? Model that.
- nradov 4y ago
  The jerks will identify flaws in your protocol and exploit them to get rid of their rivals. This is an area where only intelligent human judgment can work (and even that doesn't always work). Any type of strict protocol that could be modeled and simulated in software is doomed to failure and a waste of time.
renewiltord 4y ago
Interesting and very curious. Honestly, I can understand your hesitancy to publish because of the pearls-before-swine problem. However, I promise not to read in any way other than curiosity. If you add your email to your profile or use the one in mine, I'd be happy to converse.
hinkley 4y ago
I think we're going to find ourselves either quoting books about organized sports and military training, or re-inventing a bunch of wheels. The complexity is brutal because of the star pattern (n! connections) but one thing about the star pattern is that it's an unweighted graph. When all of the weights are identical, that's the textbook definition of anarchy. Of course everything is a mess. Everyone is trying to be in charge while half of them are also trying not to be in charge and still get their way.

incone123 4y ago

Could you link to anything you've published or could recommend? Sounds interesting even if you don't have anything actionable.

crabbygrabby 4y ago
It's all unpublished unfortunately. I don't work in this field, I just started doing it because I have had such a rough ride in industry and needed to work on some kind of plan for setting up a company that wasn't riddled with the toxic stuff I've experienced. Maybe I'll share some code at some point.
- zmgsabst 4y ago
  I’ll second the request you write a blog post. Your simulations sound fascinating.

eternalban 4y ago

Set up a protocol to identify misbehaving agents and get rid of them. Also guessing that your model does not include an affinity factor. "Certain types of jerks" are attracted to certain types of organizations. I'm reaching here but maybe some old HP hands can chime in - what sort of people did the original HP attract? I'm guessing like attracts like. "HP's founders were very remarkable people at all levels, starting with Bill and Dave." https://hpmemoryproject.org/timeline/stories/Bill&DaveStory170812.pdf https://hpmemoryproject.org/timeline/stories/Bill&DaveStory1... Possibly the fish rots from the head? Model that.

nradov 4y ago
The jerks will identify flaws in your protocol and exploit them to get rid of their rivals. This is an area where only intelligent human judgment can work (and even that doesn't always work). Any type of strict protocol that could be modeled and simulated in software is doomed to failure and a waste of time.

renewiltord 4y ago

Interesting and very curious. Honestly, I can understand your hesitancy to publish because of the pearls-before-swine problem. However, I promise not to read in any way other than curiosity. If you add your email to your profile or use the one in mine, I'd be happy to converse.

hinkley 4y ago

I think we're going to find ourselves either quoting books about organized sports and military training, or re-inventing a bunch of wheels. The complexity is brutal because of the star pattern (n! connections) but one thing about the star pattern is that it's an unweighted graph. When all of the weights are identical, that's the textbook definition of anarchy. Of course everything is a mess. Everyone is trying to be in charge while half of them are also trying not to be in charge and still get their way.