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I'm not sure there is anyone nice here. This is likely cynical corporate damage control at best or the work of an annoyed Google employee who happens to use thi

by lin83 4y ago

I'm not sure there is anyone nice here. This is likely cynical corporate damage control at best or the work of an annoyed Google employee who happens to use this app and took a personal interest. I love Fairmail and as a paid user I'm glad it's back on the PlayStore but nothing about this makes me think better of Google or anyone in charge there.

rjzzleep 4y ago
Especially since the fix seems to have been to expand the table in the privacy policy. On top of that most of these seem to be features you have to explicitly enable.
- encryptluks2 4y ago
  Yeah, how could Google requiring a developer to disclose data collection be a good thing? Geez people, let's continue the outrage at Google and demand that no developer have to disclose data collection. /sarcasm
  - Dylan16807 4y ago
    Except google didn't ask for that, they gave a factually wrong rejection reason and wouldn't communicate properly. Also the part they were likely mad at was not data collection.
csdvrx 4y ago
> This is likely cynical corporate damage control at best or the work of an annoyed Google employee I fully disagree with your take. You are assuming the default is negative. I think your explanation might be possible, but that by default it's wrong, as most people are not cynical/annoyed or any other negative quality. My fundamental belief is that most people are nice and want to do good things. If you are surrounded by cynical/annoyed people, you may be in a toxic environment, which may taint your judgement for other situations. NB: either one of us could be making a fundamental attribution error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error and it might be hard to find the truth, as it boils down to beliefs.
- ShamelessC 4y ago
  you're the one speaking in absolutes.
- tonguez 4y ago
  “most people are not cynical/annoyed or any other negative quality” thanks for sharing that valuable information with us
  - ShamelessC 4y ago
    Highly plausible stuff right?
- lin83 4y ago
  > You are assuming the default is negative. I am assuming the default is negative - for Google. I work for a far far older engineering company which is built on maintaining good relationships with our customers, vendors and their engineers. It is the exact opposite of the AI driven, frustrating/pointless bot response attitude of big tech companies. I like to think the difference is that we haven't optimised out our humanity yet.

by lin83 4y ago

rjzzleep 4y ago

Especially since the fix seems to have been to expand the table in the privacy policy. On top of that most of these seem to be features you have to explicitly enable.

encryptluks2 4y ago
Yeah, how could Google requiring a developer to disclose data collection be a good thing? Geez people, let's continue the outrage at Google and demand that no developer have to disclose data collection. /sarcasm
- Dylan16807 4y ago
  Except google didn't ask for that, they gave a factually wrong rejection reason and wouldn't communicate properly. Also the part they were likely mad at was not data collection.

csdvrx 4y ago

> This is likely cynical corporate damage control at best or the work of an annoyed Google employee I fully disagree with your take. You are assuming the default is negative. I think your explanation might be possible, but that by default it's wrong, as most people are not cynical/annoyed or any other negative quality. My fundamental belief is that most people are nice and want to do good things. If you are surrounded by cynical/annoyed people, you may be in a toxic environment, which may taint your judgement for other situations. NB: either one of us could be making a fundamental attribution error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_attribution_error and it might be hard to find the truth, as it boils down to beliefs.

ShamelessC 4y ago
you're the one speaking in absolutes.
tonguez 4y ago
“most people are not cynical/annoyed or any other negative quality” thanks for sharing that valuable information with us
- ShamelessC 4y ago
  Highly plausible stuff right?
lin83 4y ago
> You are assuming the default is negative. I am assuming the default is negative - for Google. I work for a far far older engineering company which is built on maintaining good relationships with our customers, vendors and their engineers. It is the exact opposite of the AI driven, frustrating/pointless bot response attitude of big tech companies. I like to think the difference is that we haven't optimised out our humanity yet.