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That's just not true. That's just something EV owners say to themselves to justify purchase. I've seen a bunch of these longer drives on Youtube. They try to

by dham 4y ago

That's just not true. That's just something EV owners say to themselves to justify purchase. I've seen a bunch of these longer drives on Youtube. They try to say, hey you can stop here and get lunch or wait 30 minutes and the kids can play a game. I watched a trip one person did and every time they stopped they went shopping in the Walmart (this was non Tesla chargers) or ate. That adds up. Plus you might not always be in the best part of town late at night. At the end of the day according to the Tesla trip planner it adds quite a bit of time on to basic trips. The other thing is these chargers might not be covered so you're out in the rain, or snow and the lots haven't been cleared. That just doesn't seem fun with 2 kids. You also have to think about the AC / heat, how you're driving, battery degrading after first year or so. It's an anxiety I don't need. Plus in my case I would have to get my Tesla towed 3 hours away with major issues. I now minor ones the traveling repair can deal with. A neighbor had a collision and didn't have his Tesla for 4 months. The facilities are so backed up. No one knows how to work on them except Tesla. Electric is the future, but it's like 4 to 5 years out. Hybrid is good enough right now. With ICE you literally pull of an exit, take 5 minutes to fill up and you're back.

vel0city 4y ago
> That's just not true. Its objectively the reality I live with. I definitely spend more time pumping gas in my Santa Fe than I do my Mach E. A bit over 5 minutes every week and a half versus 0 minutes so far in my Mach E. 34.666 * 5 = 173.33 minutes of waiting, as a lower bound, in the ICE means just shy of 3 hours a year I spend waiting on my gas car. Meanwhile, the amount of time I spent waiting on my Mach E to charge last year was 0 minutes. This is objective and factual. > You also have to think about the AC / heat, how you're driving, battery degrading after first year or so. If you want to, you can stress about these things. I don't, I practically always have way more range than I need every time I leave my garage. Meanwhile I do regularly get frustrated about getting a low tank of gas and think "ugh, gotta stop by the gas station sometime on this trip, even though I'm in a hurry and would really rather just get to where I'm going". You could also stress about things like AC or how you're driving in your ICE, these things impact your gas mileage and will impact what you spend. Which your per-mile energy cost is waaaaaaaaay higher in an ICE than an EV, so you'd think you want to conserve even more. Having a lead foot in an EV is a lot cheaper than in an ICE. > No one knows how to work on them except Tesla No one knows how to work on my Mach E than Tesla? Only Tesla can repair a Ioniq 5? That sure seeems strange to me!
andjd 4y ago
Alternate solution: If you don't feel that that EVs are suitable yet for you to make road trips, you can still buy an EV for your daily needs and rent a gas-powered car for the occasional times you need to take longer trips.
Dylan16807 4y ago
> I've seen a bunch of these longer drives on Youtube. Cool, now consider that lots of people make very few longer drives. They're not deluding themselves just because they use a car differently than you do!
tomtheelder 4y ago
If you regularly drive hundreds of miles at a time, then your position is fair enough. Very few people do that. I and many people I know own an EV, and it is literally zero stress. In fact it's less stress than with my old ICE car, because I effectively always have a full tank in the morning. I don't even have level 2 home charging, but it's still a complete non issue. I've done longer drives too, and I would describe those as "slightly inconvenient." In all honesty I sort of appreciate the breaks, but I know it annoys my girlfriend who likes to keep rolling. It definitely adds time, that's a fact! But realistically owning an EV today is incredibly straightforward and stress free. I an everyone I know who has one would agree.

by dham 4y ago

vel0city 4y ago

> That's just not true. Its objectively the reality I live with. I definitely spend more time pumping gas in my Santa Fe than I do my Mach E. A bit over 5 minutes every week and a half versus 0 minutes so far in my Mach E. 34.666 * 5 = 173.33 minutes of waiting, as a lower bound, in the ICE means just shy of 3 hours a year I spend waiting on my gas car. Meanwhile, the amount of time I spent waiting on my Mach E to charge last year was 0 minutes. This is objective and factual. > You also have to think about the AC / heat, how you're driving, battery degrading after first year or so. If you want to, you can stress about these things. I don't, I practically always have way more range than I need every time I leave my garage. Meanwhile I do regularly get frustrated about getting a low tank of gas and think "ugh, gotta stop by the gas station sometime on this trip, even though I'm in a hurry and would really rather just get to where I'm going". You could also stress about things like AC or how you're driving in your ICE, these things impact your gas mileage and will impact what you spend. Which your per-mile energy cost is waaaaaaaaay higher in an ICE than an EV, so you'd think you want to conserve even more. Having a lead foot in an EV is a lot cheaper than in an ICE. > No one knows how to work on them except Tesla No one knows how to work on my Mach E than Tesla? Only Tesla can repair a Ioniq 5? That sure seeems strange to me!

andjd 4y ago

Alternate solution: If you don't feel that that EVs are suitable yet for you to make road trips, you can still buy an EV for your daily needs and rent a gas-powered car for the occasional times you need to take longer trips.

Dylan16807 4y ago

> I've seen a bunch of these longer drives on Youtube. Cool, now consider that lots of people make very few longer drives. They're not deluding themselves just because they use a car differently than you do!

tomtheelder 4y ago

If you regularly drive hundreds of miles at a time, then your position is fair enough. Very few people do that. I and many people I know own an EV, and it is literally zero stress. In fact it's less stress than with my old ICE car, because I effectively always have a full tank in the morning. I don't even have level 2 home charging, but it's still a complete non issue. I've done longer drives too, and I would describe those as "slightly inconvenient." In all honesty I sort of appreciate the breaks, but I know it annoys my girlfriend who likes to keep rolling. It definitely adds time, that's a fact! But realistically owning an EV today is incredibly straightforward and stress free. I an everyone I know who has one would agree.