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Nickb's very own New Mogul: business, leadership, management and financial news.arc

57 points by rms 18y ago

s3graham 18y ago
Like the title Georgia, but I'd go farther and change Verdana on the discussion to serif'd (I know, crazy!). Also, the guidelines/faq/contact links don't work.
swombat 18y ago
Is this meant to finally siphon off all the finance news off HackerNews? Would be much welcome.
- wensing 18y ago
  Forgive me in advance for stirring the pot yet again, but I thought this site was called "Hacker News" because it's meant to carry news of interest to hackers. In which case it makes sense that this will ebb and flow between tech, finance, politics, et al. in keeping with the stories of our times. Right now it's finance, but I'm willing to claim that this is temporary in light of what's going on in our world. How does one determine the boundaries between financial markets and venture capital, politics and net neutrality, etc.? Whatever we do, please let's not make this site into another one of those inhospitable "I'm moving your post to the Financial News discussion forum" types. In other words, is there a plan in anyone's mind to stop people from submitting financial posts to HN? Btw, cool site, nickb.
  - ntoshev 18y ago
    To me, financial news is on topic for hacker news, as long as they provide some insight into what is going on. Plain facts are borderline, silly jokes and complaints are offtopic. Personally I'm going to submit posts from Nickbs's and Mattmaroon's sites here, as long as they meet the criteria above. I already did with the alternative energy post (not because I agree with the author, but because he provides an interesting to me point of view, I haven't considered energy density before). If these are really offtopic here, they will get killed/not upmodded, but I don't think so.
  - nickb 18y ago
    Thanks! I'm totally with you on this one: HN needs to cover whatever's interesting. But the thing that spurred me to finally put this thing out there is the dearth of business-related (not necessarily financial) stories on HN. For example, just the other day, I posted this: "Seven Ways to Fail Big" http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=315327 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=315327 Anyway, it got 1 point here even though I thought it was a great article that you can learn a lot from. Anyway, I've been waiting for someone to pick up some slack and start a site of their own but haven't seen anything come out in the past year.
    - ced 18y ago
      Thanks for your contributions, but personally, I am fed up with the "business tips" topics. They may be practical and useful to someone with a startup, but they are otherwise not very intellectually stimulating.
fallentimes 18y ago
As I commented in the nonhackernews thread, this should be combined with nonhackernews. While I've enjoyed reading both sites, we don't need two HN splinters.
- mattmaroon 18y ago
  I know what you mean, but I don't want to limit NHN to just finance-related stuff. It's obviously the hot topic du jour, but it normally plays a smaller role in the news than it does currently. I do like the site though.
  - nickb 18y ago
    Totally understand. The reason behind NonHN and NM is completely different and I don't think we're splintering anything. I'm posting on both sites and they complement each other. I don't think there will be much overlap between the two as soon as this mess is over.
    - mattmaroon 18y ago
      Yeah, I agree. I lurk on your site too. Also great quality subs.
- nickb 18y ago
  I'm posting there too :) But the reason why I started this one was because I want just purely business news. NonHN has a much wider focus which is great too. But I'd like to have 'one page of business news' site. After this financial meltdown is over, I guarantee you that there won't be much overlap between HN, NonHN and NM.
- yters 18y ago
  Is there a way to create a meta site for these 3, so a person can choose to view any combination they wish?
ashleyw 18y ago
What software does HN run on then? Or is NewMogul just copying some of the design aspects of HN? http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7245/newmogulbusinessleaderslq6.png http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7245/newmogulbusinesslead...
- staticshock 18y ago
  http://arclanguage.org/item?id=3426 http://arclanguage.org/item?id=3426
  - reazalun 18y ago
    Wow, I never knew about this. Is that hard for someone who does not know Lisp and Arc to install it?
  - ashleyw 18y ago
    Cool, didn't know about that, thanks!
- j2d2 18y ago
  What browser is that? I can't post a screenshot while at work, but it looks different for me in firefox on windows.
  - ashleyw 18y ago
    Firefox 3 on OSX btw I did change the header color to the one HN has (#ff6600) to show how similar it is...
- nickb 18y ago
  HN is pretty much the only site I visit daily and it got under my skin. I didn't wanna make any radical changes. I changed the font to make it more "business page of a newspaper" like.
  - staticshock 18y ago
    it looks good, nick, and i think we're overdue for this split
rw 18y ago
The color/font scheme is horrible - just copy HN! I signed up, regardless.
- Zev 18y ago
  I actually like the font/color scheme for the most part; it reminds me of a copy of the WSJ or NY Times. The edges on each side are a nice touch to top it off. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the color of the upvote arrow. It's still a shade of red which makes me think it's bad to upvote something. Though it does a good job of making someone think before they blindly upvote something without reading I suppose..
  - nickb 18y ago
    What color do you prefer? Darker gray or lighter black would be better?
    - Zev 18y ago
      I was thinking of an old yellow, similar to the shade of a faded newspaper's color rather then a shade of grey. After messing around with the arrow in photoshop a bit, #d1ce9c was the color that I came up with: http://thisismyinter.net/mockups/newmogul.png http://thisismyinter.net/mockups/newmogul.png & http://thisismyinter.net/mockups/grayarrow.png http://thisismyinter.net/mockups/grayarrow.png - But it's nearing 4am here, so it could turn out to be a hideous shade of yellow and I wouldn't realize it until tomorrow morning.
sspencer 18y ago
Beautiful design! I signed up, same name as here.
timr 18y ago
I think pg is taking this 'nickb' thing a bit too far.

57 points by rms 18y ago

Like the title Georgia, but I'd go farther and change Verdana on the discussion to serif'd (I know, crazy!). Also, the guidelines/faq/contact links don't work.

swombat 18y ago

Is this meant to finally siphon off all the finance news off HackerNews? Would be much welcome.

wensing 18y ago
Forgive me in advance for stirring the pot yet again, but I thought this site was called "Hacker News" because it's meant to carry news of interest to hackers. In which case it makes sense that this will ebb and flow between tech, finance, politics, et al. in keeping with the stories of our times. Right now it's finance, but I'm willing to claim that this is temporary in light of what's going on in our world. How does one determine the boundaries between financial markets and venture capital, politics and net neutrality, etc.? Whatever we do, please let's not make this site into another one of those inhospitable "I'm moving your post to the Financial News discussion forum" types. In other words, is there a plan in anyone's mind to stop people from submitting financial posts to HN? Btw, cool site, nickb.
- ntoshev 18y ago
  To me, financial news is on topic for hacker news, as long as they provide some insight into what is going on. Plain facts are borderline, silly jokes and complaints are offtopic. Personally I'm going to submit posts from Nickbs's and Mattmaroon's sites here, as long as they meet the criteria above. I already did with the alternative energy post (not because I agree with the author, but because he provides an interesting to me point of view, I haven't considered energy density before). If these are really offtopic here, they will get killed/not upmodded, but I don't think so.
- nickb 18y ago
  Thanks! I'm totally with you on this one: HN needs to cover whatever's interesting. But the thing that spurred me to finally put this thing out there is the dearth of business-related (not necessarily financial) stories on HN. For example, just the other day, I posted this: "Seven Ways to Fail Big" http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=315327 http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=315327 Anyway, it got 1 point here even though I thought it was a great article that you can learn a lot from. Anyway, I've been waiting for someone to pick up some slack and start a site of their own but haven't seen anything come out in the past year.
  - ced 18y ago
    Thanks for your contributions, but personally, I am fed up with the "business tips" topics. They may be practical and useful to someone with a startup, but they are otherwise not very intellectually stimulating.

fallentimes 18y ago

As I commented in the nonhackernews thread, this should be combined with nonhackernews. While I've enjoyed reading both sites, we don't need two HN splinters.

mattmaroon 18y ago
I know what you mean, but I don't want to limit NHN to just finance-related stuff. It's obviously the hot topic du jour, but it normally plays a smaller role in the news than it does currently. I do like the site though.
- nickb 18y ago
  Totally understand. The reason behind NonHN and NM is completely different and I don't think we're splintering anything. I'm posting on both sites and they complement each other. I don't think there will be much overlap between the two as soon as this mess is over.
  - mattmaroon 18y ago
    Yeah, I agree. I lurk on your site too. Also great quality subs.
nickb 18y ago
I'm posting there too :) But the reason why I started this one was because I want just purely business news. NonHN has a much wider focus which is great too. But I'd like to have 'one page of business news' site. After this financial meltdown is over, I guarantee you that there won't be much overlap between HN, NonHN and NM.
yters 18y ago
Is there a way to create a meta site for these 3, so a person can choose to view any combination they wish?

ashleyw 18y ago

What software does HN run on then? Or is NewMogul just copying some of the design aspects of HN? http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7245/newmogulbusinessleaderslq6.png http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7245/newmogulbusinesslead...

staticshock 18y ago
http://arclanguage.org/item?id=3426 http://arclanguage.org/item?id=3426
- reazalun 18y ago
  Wow, I never knew about this. Is that hard for someone who does not know Lisp and Arc to install it?
- ashleyw 18y ago
  Cool, didn't know about that, thanks!
j2d2 18y ago
What browser is that? I can't post a screenshot while at work, but it looks different for me in firefox on windows.
- ashleyw 18y ago
  Firefox 3 on OSX btw I did change the header color to the one HN has (#ff6600) to show how similar it is...
nickb 18y ago
HN is pretty much the only site I visit daily and it got under my skin. I didn't wanna make any radical changes. I changed the font to make it more "business page of a newspaper" like.
- staticshock 18y ago
  it looks good, nick, and i think we're overdue for this split

rw 18y ago

The color/font scheme is horrible - just copy HN! I signed up, regardless.

Zev 18y ago
I actually like the font/color scheme for the most part; it reminds me of a copy of the WSJ or NY Times. The edges on each side are a nice touch to top it off. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the color of the upvote arrow. It's still a shade of red which makes me think it's bad to upvote something. Though it does a good job of making someone think before they blindly upvote something without reading I suppose..
- nickb 18y ago
  What color do you prefer? Darker gray or lighter black would be better?
  - Zev 18y ago
    I was thinking of an old yellow, similar to the shade of a faded newspaper's color rather then a shade of grey. After messing around with the arrow in photoshop a bit, #d1ce9c was the color that I came up with: http://thisismyinter.net/mockups/newmogul.png http://thisismyinter.net/mockups/newmogul.png & http://thisismyinter.net/mockups/grayarrow.png http://thisismyinter.net/mockups/grayarrow.png - But it's nearing 4am here, so it could turn out to be a hideous shade of yellow and I wouldn't realize it until tomorrow morning.

sspencer 18y ago

Beautiful design! I signed up, same name as here.

timr 18y ago

I think pg is taking this 'nickb' thing a bit too far.