4 ms·

Not sure what are you so angry about. All of these jobs were done remotely during pandemic and out of sudden they just can't. This has zero logic to it. And is

Not sure what are you so angry about. All of these jobs were done remotely during pandemic and out of sudden they just can't. This has zero logic to it. And is all about someone being emotional control freak.

imgabe 4y ago
I'm not angry about anything. Lots of things were done sub-optimally during the pandemic due to the circumstances. That doesn't mean we shouldn't go back to doing them a way that works better now that we can.
- hackernewds 4y ago
  Would argue quite the opposite. Technology companies, TSLA standing out, have done exceptionally well. In fact having the pandemic as a tailwind instead showing they're able to adapt and capitalize on technology to be even further productive.
  - imgabe 4y ago
    profit-wise maybe, but if you look at the massive global production shortages and supply chain issues, it’s pretty clear that the pandemic working situation was not the ideal way to produce things.
    - deelowe 4y ago
      That's a pretty simplistic view of an extremely complex issue. For one, factories shutdown. This wasn't caused by people wanting to work remotely, but due to covid outbreaks in the factories and government mandates. Second, the supply issues were already starting pre-covid. It was clear we were heading into an IC supply crunch 3 months before Covid emerged in China.
    - dekhn 4y ago
      those shortages and supply chain issues are because people make systems that are near peak efficiency, not peak robustness, and when you engineer for peak efficiency, it always means you're brittle in the face of unpredictable failures. That things weren't worse is a sign that the world adapted to the new working situation very effectively.
IMTDb 4y ago
The question is not "can these job be done remotely". The question is "can these job be done more efficiently remotely perpetually". A lot of things were doable during pandemic time because it was global, temporary and necessary. Eg: lots of people got their salaries maintained despite their job not really existing anymore. That was possible (and necessary) because we knew it was temporary. But the conclusion cannot be "As the pandemic showed us a lot of the workforce can be paid even if they don't produce anything, we should stop asking people to work at all". Similarly, while some level of operations were able to be maintained during the pandemic, the rate of innovation and the global productivity definitely went down, significantly. If you intent to be maintaining the same working conditions, with the same effects in a post COVID world while your competition resumes regular operations, going back to regular speed, you are going to have a hard time.

imgabe 4y ago

I'm not angry about anything. Lots of things were done sub-optimally during the pandemic due to the circumstances. That doesn't mean we shouldn't go back to doing them a way that works better now that we can.

hackernewds 4y ago
Would argue quite the opposite. Technology companies, TSLA standing out, have done exceptionally well. In fact having the pandemic as a tailwind instead showing they're able to adapt and capitalize on technology to be even further productive.
- imgabe 4y ago
  profit-wise maybe, but if you look at the massive global production shortages and supply chain issues, it’s pretty clear that the pandemic working situation was not the ideal way to produce things.
  - deelowe 4y ago
    That's a pretty simplistic view of an extremely complex issue. For one, factories shutdown. This wasn't caused by people wanting to work remotely, but due to covid outbreaks in the factories and government mandates. Second, the supply issues were already starting pre-covid. It was clear we were heading into an IC supply crunch 3 months before Covid emerged in China.
  - dekhn 4y ago
    those shortages and supply chain issues are because people make systems that are near peak efficiency, not peak robustness, and when you engineer for peak efficiency, it always means you're brittle in the face of unpredictable failures. That things weren't worse is a sign that the world adapted to the new working situation very effectively.

IMTDb 4y ago

The question is not "can these job be done remotely". The question is "can these job be done more efficiently remotely perpetually". A lot of things were doable during pandemic time because it was global, temporary and necessary. Eg: lots of people got their salaries maintained despite their job not really existing anymore. That was possible (and necessary) because we knew it was temporary. But the conclusion cannot be "As the pandemic showed us a lot of the workforce can be paid even if they don't produce anything, we should stop asking people to work at all". Similarly, while some level of operations were able to be maintained during the pandemic, the rate of innovation and the global productivity definitely went down, significantly. If you intent to be maintaining the same working conditions, with the same effects in a post COVID world while your competition resumes regular operations, going back to regular speed, you are going to have a hard time.