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I saw a discussion recently (with some C-level and at the WEF) and one said: The company "needs to earn the commute" - and explained that if the office is just

I saw a discussion recently (with some C-level and at the WEF) and one said: The company "needs to earn the commute" - and explained that if the office is just another place where the desk stands in a room it's not worth it for the employees to spend time to get there.

ragebol 4y ago
I like this. I'm currently on my 1% of not working remote, first and last few days of being in the office since last year July. I'm just as productive or maybe less than I was at home. Only reason to be here is to have a face to face chat, a beer and BBQ with colleagues. Oh, and see our hardware in person, but productivity wise, the benefit is negligible if at all.
- SSLy 4y ago
  I visit the office once a month to meet the folks, I don't even pretend to do any work on such days maybe except replying to emails.
  - dekhn 4y ago
    I think of it slightly differently- I go to the office primarily to be social, but will at times to pair programming or other technical work with coworkers in the same room. However, I never try to do anything complex (https://dev.to/_bigblind/are-interruptions-really-worse-for-programmers-than-for-other-knowledge-workers-2ij9 https://dev.to/_bigblind/are-interruptions-really-worse-for-...) in person/in the office, just minor changes that work together if two people are in a room. Write a few lines, see that things still pass, and send for review, which is then done carefully, without distractions, out of office.
tombert 4y ago
That was definitely my experience with working at a satellite office at a FAANG company. I would take the train an hour each way every day, just to dial into a remote meeting in California. It didn't bother me at first, but eventually it really bothered me once COVID hit and we were allowed to work from home. I'm not opposed to being on the train for two hours a day if I feel like there's value in me actually being there (e.g. if I were a lecturer or something), but my job is to sit on my ass and write code, and I can do that at home, in my office, with music playing as loud as I want, being able to cook my own lunch for cheaper, and my "commute" taking about 20 seconds a day.
- sizzle 4y ago
  More importantly, optimal desk and monitor configuration and no people breathing down your neck shattering your ability to focus and go in a flow state. This all assumes no little children of course…
q1w2 4y ago
That just sounds like someone saying something they know workers want to hear, but having little substance behind it. Invariably, all relationships need to "earn" the terms of their existence with the other party.

ragebol 4y ago

I like this. I'm currently on my 1% of not working remote, first and last few days of being in the office since last year July. I'm just as productive or maybe less than I was at home. Only reason to be here is to have a face to face chat, a beer and BBQ with colleagues. Oh, and see our hardware in person, but productivity wise, the benefit is negligible if at all.

SSLy 4y ago
I visit the office once a month to meet the folks, I don't even pretend to do any work on such days maybe except replying to emails.
- dekhn 4y ago
  I think of it slightly differently- I go to the office primarily to be social, but will at times to pair programming or other technical work with coworkers in the same room. However, I never try to do anything complex (https://dev.to/_bigblind/are-interruptions-really-worse-for-programmers-than-for-other-knowledge-workers-2ij9 https://dev.to/_bigblind/are-interruptions-really-worse-for-...) in person/in the office, just minor changes that work together if two people are in a room. Write a few lines, see that things still pass, and send for review, which is then done carefully, without distractions, out of office.

tombert 4y ago

That was definitely my experience with working at a satellite office at a FAANG company. I would take the train an hour each way every day, just to dial into a remote meeting in California. It didn't bother me at first, but eventually it really bothered me once COVID hit and we were allowed to work from home. I'm not opposed to being on the train for two hours a day if I feel like there's value in me actually being there (e.g. if I were a lecturer or something), but my job is to sit on my ass and write code, and I can do that at home, in my office, with music playing as loud as I want, being able to cook my own lunch for cheaper, and my "commute" taking about 20 seconds a day.

sizzle 4y ago
More importantly, optimal desk and monitor configuration and no people breathing down your neck shattering your ability to focus and go in a flow state. This all assumes no little children of course…

q1w2 4y ago

That just sounds like someone saying something they know workers want to hear, but having little substance behind it. Invariably, all relationships need to "earn" the terms of their existence with the other party.