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If therapy means “teaching kids how to cope with difficult things and calm down” then why not? Especially if offered via an app (many apps to teach CBT techniqu

by elil17 4y ago

If therapy means “teaching kids how to cope with difficult things and calm down” then why not? Especially if offered via an app (many apps to teach CBT techniques are available and appropriate for mild anxiety) or in a group session, where it could be fairly economical.

belval 4y ago
I really meant giving each kid a therapist is not feasible. You can have a class on how to handle anxiety, I actually had those when I was in high school and it helped.
- kelseyfrog 4y ago
  We can't give each kid one-on-one tutoring[1] which would improve children's education by 2 standard deviations. Yet, we still teach kids in classrooms. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of good(or better). 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom%27s_2_sigma_problem https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom%27s_2_sigma_problem
- beardedetim 4y ago
  > giving each kid a therapist is not feasible. Why not? We expect a healthy child to have a doctor, a healthy child to have a friend group. Why not expect them to have a mental doctor/therapist?
  - leetcrew 4y ago
    very different models of care? if you have a doctor, the expectation is that you see them for a yearly checkup plus a few times for random illnesses. if you have a therapist, the expectation is that you see them every week or two. maybe there's value in occasionally seeing a therapist for a "mental health checkup", but weekly one-on-ones obviously doesn't scale to every single child.
    - dragonwriter 4y ago
      > but weekly one-on-ones obviously doesn't scale to every single child. An appropriate course of treatment for each child with a diagnosable condition for which it is appropriate certainly does. Maybe weekly sessions 52 weeks a year, every year, for every child regardless of need doesn't, but why would you do that anyway?
  - staticman2 4y ago
    I suspect giving therapists to healthy children would make them less healthy on average. Basically for every treatment a certain percentage of patients will get worse, not better. So just like you'd only prescribe drugs when needed due to the risks, prescribing therapy when not needed is a bad idea.

by elil17 4y ago

belval 4y ago

I really meant giving each kid a therapist is not feasible. You can have a class on how to handle anxiety, I actually had those when I was in high school and it helped.

kelseyfrog 4y ago
We can't give each kid one-on-one tutoring[1] which would improve children's education by 2 standard deviations. Yet, we still teach kids in classrooms. Let's not let perfect be the enemy of good(or better). 1. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom%27s_2_sigma_problem https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloom%27s_2_sigma_problem
beardedetim 4y ago
> giving each kid a therapist is not feasible. Why not? We expect a healthy child to have a doctor, a healthy child to have a friend group. Why not expect them to have a mental doctor/therapist?
- leetcrew 4y ago
  very different models of care? if you have a doctor, the expectation is that you see them for a yearly checkup plus a few times for random illnesses. if you have a therapist, the expectation is that you see them every week or two. maybe there's value in occasionally seeing a therapist for a "mental health checkup", but weekly one-on-ones obviously doesn't scale to every single child.
  - dragonwriter 4y ago
    > but weekly one-on-ones obviously doesn't scale to every single child. An appropriate course of treatment for each child with a diagnosable condition for which it is appropriate certainly does. Maybe weekly sessions 52 weeks a year, every year, for every child regardless of need doesn't, but why would you do that anyway?
- staticman2 4y ago
  I suspect giving therapists to healthy children would make them less healthy on average. Basically for every treatment a certain percentage of patients will get worse, not better. So just like you'd only prescribe drugs when needed due to the risks, prescribing therapy when not needed is a bad idea.