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So a company who's only operational history is repairing and rebuilding ICE DeLoreans from old stock parts now wants us to believe they're capable of building a

So a company who's only operational history is repairing and rebuilding ICE DeLoreans from old stock parts now wants us to believe they're capable of building a modern EV? I'd put good money on this one being yet more EV vaporware that will never actually see a production model roll of the line.

rob74 4y ago
> CEO Joost de Vries, previously a high-ranking official at Tesla and Karma [...] has taken the helm from Brit Stephen Wynne, who had run DeLorean as an aftermarket support service since 1995, when he acquired the brand rights following the high-profile demise of the original company. ...to me that sounds like de Vries has taken over the company just so he can use the name, so what the previous owner did with it is not relevant. As to when something will actually roll off the line, that remains to be seen. Personally, I think they should have resurrected the original DeLorean (or something more closely resembling it) as an electric car, rather than this pretty interchangeable sportscar design...
colechristensen 4y ago
>“The car is being built in Italy – we’ve outsourced that – and we have some partners on the UK on the powertrain side.” They’re using existing platforms from other companies and customizing them. Similar to how the original Tesla Roadster was based in the Lotus Elise, they took the basic design and modified it to be an EV keeping as many parts as possible to simplify the design and safety process. It’s easier to modify an existing design than to start from scratch and you get to outsource much of the process.
- JumpCrisscross 4y ago
  Would also note that EVs are massively easier to build than ICE vehicles.
  - yuppie_scum 4y ago
    But still not easy. Look at the dicey early examples of any Tesla for example..
  - LanceJones 4y ago
    Then why are so many legacy ICE manufacturers struggling so badly with manufacturing and production at scale?
    - colechristensen 4y ago
      Because scaling any car manufacturing business is hard and developing an EV is still a hell of a lot harder than releasing the next model of whatever ICE car you've been iterating on for a century.
    - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
      > why are so many legacy ICE manufacturers struggling so badly with manufacturing and production at scale? Because it’s still hard. Just not permanent incumbency hard like it was for IC engines. We will probably see EVs continue to see successful new entrants with a diverse set of players pushing down prices and increasing the number of options for consumers while keeping any single manufacturer from achieving dominance.
    - imtringued 4y ago
      VW isn't struggling, it is the biggest EV manufacturer in Europe.
- LanceJones 4y ago
  Note that this is not true in Tesla's case. Elon and team thought it would be easier to modify an existing design, but have since admitted that it was a mistake to do so.
  - colechristensen 4y ago
    Eh, that's still their estimation of how things would have went if they made different choices. They had the experience of building a car from the ground up after building a car from an existing base. Who knows how it would have gone had they tried to build their first car from nothing.
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rob74 4y ago

> CEO Joost de Vries, previously a high-ranking official at Tesla and Karma [...] has taken the helm from Brit Stephen Wynne, who had run DeLorean as an aftermarket support service since 1995, when he acquired the brand rights following the high-profile demise of the original company. ...to me that sounds like de Vries has taken over the company just so he can use the name, so what the previous owner did with it is not relevant. As to when something will actually roll off the line, that remains to be seen. Personally, I think they should have resurrected the original DeLorean (or something more closely resembling it) as an electric car, rather than this pretty interchangeable sportscar design...

colechristensen 4y ago

>“The car is being built in Italy – we’ve outsourced that – and we have some partners on the UK on the powertrain side.” They’re using existing platforms from other companies and customizing them. Similar to how the original Tesla Roadster was based in the Lotus Elise, they took the basic design and modified it to be an EV keeping as many parts as possible to simplify the design and safety process. It’s easier to modify an existing design than to start from scratch and you get to outsource much of the process.

JumpCrisscross 4y ago
Would also note that EVs are massively easier to build than ICE vehicles.
- yuppie_scum 4y ago
  But still not easy. Look at the dicey early examples of any Tesla for example..
- LanceJones 4y ago
  Then why are so many legacy ICE manufacturers struggling so badly with manufacturing and production at scale?
  - colechristensen 4y ago
    Because scaling any car manufacturing business is hard and developing an EV is still a hell of a lot harder than releasing the next model of whatever ICE car you've been iterating on for a century.
  - JumpCrisscross 4y ago
    > why are so many legacy ICE manufacturers struggling so badly with manufacturing and production at scale? Because it’s still hard. Just not permanent incumbency hard like it was for IC engines. We will probably see EVs continue to see successful new entrants with a diverse set of players pushing down prices and increasing the number of options for consumers while keeping any single manufacturer from achieving dominance.
  - imtringued 4y ago
    VW isn't struggling, it is the biggest EV manufacturer in Europe.
LanceJones 4y ago
Note that this is not true in Tesla's case. Elon and team thought it would be easier to modify an existing design, but have since admitted that it was a mistake to do so.
- colechristensen 4y ago
  Eh, that's still their estimation of how things would have went if they made different choices. They had the experience of building a car from the ground up after building a car from an existing base. Who knows how it would have gone had they tried to build their first car from nothing.

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