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If you take out 18 and 19 years old, that is no longer true. We have way too many firearm deaths in this country but the way these studies choose their age ran
by monocularvision 4y ago
If you take out 18 and 19 years old, that is no longer true.
We have way too many firearm deaths in this country but the way these studies choose their age ranges always feel like folks are in search of the conclusion they desire.
- GenerocUsername 4y ago
- CalRobert 4y agoFirearm deaths and vehicle deaths, particularly vehicles killing pedestrians, both are more likely to befall poor people, which is correlated with certain ethnic groups in the US. Though a well-designed city is nearly the safest you can be in terms of places to walk.
- kevin_thibedeau 4y agoThe majority of poor people in the US are white.
- macintux 4y agoThe majority of people in the US are white, so that statistic alone doesn’t mean much. Per Statista, 1 out of every 5 black USians are living in poverty, more than twice the rate of whites. https://www.statista.com/statistics/200476/us-poverty-rate-by-ethnic-group/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/200476/us-poverty-rate-b...
- boppo1 4y ago
- ibejoeb 4y agoThat article also includes suicides.
- grayclhn 4y agoNot really a discussion I particularly want to get into, but many people think “an increase in suicides” should be counted as a negative consequence of firearms.
- refurb 4y agoBut the US has a lower suicide rate than countries with fewer guns?
- godelski 4y agoThe US has a pretty high suicide rate, especially for developed countries https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/suicide-rate-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/suicide-r...
- pbhjpbhj 4y agoDoes shooting up some place count on the suicide figures, almost always it's going to be a decision to die (you might not die, but surely death of an 'active shooter' is the expected outcome).
- google234123 4y agoNo but it wouldn’t matter if it was
- jayd16 4y agoUS isn't the highest but there are certainly countries with lower rates.
- refurb 4y agoRight, other countries with higher rates have fewer guns. My point entirely.
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- mschuster91 4y agoEvery single child (and people under 18 are just that: children) dying because their parents couldn't be arsed to follow even the most basic gun safety laws is one too much. Toddlers shooting themselves with the gun that their reckless father left under the pillow? Even in countries with very liberal attitudes to guns such as Switzerland don't have that problem. Not to mention, the cutoff at age 18 is obvious because most people have finished education at that age - and the most shootings happen at high school.
- Jiro 4y agoThe cutoff at age 18 is so that gang warfare that kills gang members who are under 18 can be counted as shootings of "children".
- mschuster91 4y agoThe US has a child accidentally shoot a gun almost every day, with 765 people ending up dead in five years [1]. That alone is horrific and completely unheard of outside the US and active war zones. [1] https://www.npr.org/2021/08/31/1032725392/guns-death-children?t=1653985689630 https://www.npr.org/2021/08/31/1032725392/guns-death-childre...
- pseudo0 4y agoSo in a country with around 75 million under-18s, that works out to an approximate risk of 1/500,000 per kid per year. And per the article: > The most likely age group to be both shooters and victims are teenagers ages 14 to 17 Maybe we should make firearms safety and hunters education classes once again part of the school curriculum to prevent these accidents? Just like with driving classes, training and experience in a controlled environment is a great way to reduce the frequency of accidents. Although that assumes the incidents in question are accidents, rather than "accidents".