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My “modern” (20-year-old, which is solidly modern by this standard) dishwasher cleans much better than I remember my childhood dishwasher cleaning. It also does
by amluto 4y ago
My “modern” (20-year-old, which is solidly modern by this standard) dishwasher cleans much better than I remember my childhood dishwasher cleaning. It also doesn’t melt plastic on the bottom rack, which is a fantastic feature. The main downside is it takes two hours, and I think my childhood dishwasher took one hour.
My modern front load washer gets clothes clean. It also doesn’t severely abrade them. As I understand it, this combination of features is unavailable in a top-loader. Top-loaders with agitators clean well but damage clothing due to rubbing against the agitator. Top-loaders without agitators don’t clean well.
(Fundamentally, front loading is just a better design. There is no reason to submerge clothes for the whole cycle; to the contrary, one wants the clothes to move relative to the water. With a top loader, the clothes and the water move as a unit and gravity doesn’t help at all except to the extent that it avoids needing a seal on the door. With a front loader, gravity actively assists the process. And, aside from saving water, the fact that less water is used means that less detergent is needed to achieve a given concentration.)
Make fun of modern low-water appliances all you like, but a lot of them are much better than the things they replaced even if you don’t care about water usage.
- gambiting 4y agoMy new(2 years old) Bosch dishwasher cleans much better than any other dishwasher I used in my life. I'm like 60% sure that the buttons on the front don't actually do anything, because it cleans equally well in all modes, from ECO(50C) to Heavy Load(70C). Yeah the eco mode takes 3 hours by default, but press "Vario Speed" and is done in 1:05h with the exact same result.
- maccard 4y ago> Yeah the eco mode takes 3 hours by default, but press "Vario Speed" and is done in 1:05h with the exact same result. I wonder about people complaining about this - whether it takes 1 hour or 3 hours, are you sitting in your kitchen waiting for the dishwasher to complete? Put it on after a meal and next time you're in the kitchen it will be done...
- gambiting 4y agoI mean, it's nice to have an option for a quick programme when you have guests over and actually it's good to do a couple loads in a single day. But yes overnight I don't care, it can take 6 hours and I wouldn't mind.
- edzillion 4y agoTime it to finish when you get up and it will release a lot of warm (humid) air to help you warm up your house
- gambiting 4y agoIt's on a timer anyway because we have cheap electricity from 00:30-04:30, so I just run it alongside all the other appliances within thouse hours(and charge our car too).
- throwaway09223 4y agoHonestly my only complaint is that my Bosch dishwasher's beep cannot be disabled. If I start it late, the damn thing wakes me up in the middle of the night. I've seriously considered taking it apart to remove the buzzer.
- amluto 4y agoA quick DuckDuckGo search for “bosch dishwasher turn off beep” comes up with some promising results.
- celticninja 4y agoI cook a large meal for family maybe and bake some desert and then rest of the days build up and it's full. Put it on the 3hr cycle and by the time dinner is finished there is a while new load to go in, which has to sit around until it is complete (still 1.5 hour to go after we finish eating)
- throwaway09223 4y agoI have a modern Bosch benchmark washer and it also cleans better than anything I've ever used from past decades. It's also extremely expensive. I have friends with cheaper dishwashers and they do not clean well at all on eco modes. Everything's relative.
- gambiting 4y agoYeah I mean....of course. My sister got a cheap dishwasher couple years ago and it never broke, it just never cleaned properly, we cleaned the filters, all tubing, all the arms, used the dishwasher cleaner several times.....nope, would still leave residue and bits of food on plates, literally regardless of mode. It was basically useless for its main function. It was under warranty but the engineer came out and said yeah, there's nothing wrong with it, it's just not very good. We ended up recycling it and buying the cheapest Bosch Series 2, it's not fancy but at least it works as a dishwasher.
- ClumsyPilot 4y ago> My modern front load washer gets clothes clean. It also doesn’t severely abrade them. I had rented a place with a washer that ruined all of my clothes. I didn't figure out whats happening untill it was too late
- Scoundreller 4y agoYeah, I’ve had front loaders trap a sheet in a seal and then scorch a bunch of stuff when it spun at a bajillion rpm against the 0rpm fabric. Wash on delicate with Cold water my friends!
- amluto 4y agoI’ve had a top loader get clothing stuck in regrettable places on the agitator and shred them. I’ve never met a washer that was impossible to misuse.
- Gigachad 4y agoDishwashers take longer now because they only run half of the jets at once. Cycling between the top and bottom half. Cleans just as well, uses half the water, takes twice as long. I can’t say I have ever really cared about the time taken for a dishwasher as it’s set and forget.