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I see the point of that dishwasher for someone who doesn't have easy access to a sink like a student in a dorm, but I can't fathom why you'd put one in a house

I see the point of that dishwasher for someone who doesn't have easy access to a sink like a student in a dorm, but I can't fathom why you'd put one in a house or apartment. With such a tiny capacity you're better off hand washing.

JohnJamesRambo 4y ago
I feel like my full size dishwasher doesn’t hold enough dishes…
seu 4y ago
Exactly. And especially considering the costs, which would have been very easy to calculate before purchasing the thing.
ameesdotme 4y ago
Bob- and apartment-owner here. We have a small kitchen and just don't have the space for a full-sized dishwasher. Bob fits snugly in the cabinet under the sink and runs once a day for a 2-person household. It's perfect for our needs and saves us a lot of both time and water.
- fundatus 4y ago
  Same! Also it washes at up to 70°C which you simply can't do when hand washing - but it gives you a much better result with less water usage.
  - geewee 4y ago
    Much more energy usage though!
kilroy123 4y ago
I'm guessing you're not from Europe? Most flats are very small and there's simply no space for a traditional, large American style dishwasher.
Wohlf 4y ago
If it was my only option due to lack of space or not being allowed to install a full-size, I'd still find it worthwhile now that I eat at home much more often. One to two loads a day would handle everything but the pots and pans for me and my partner while we can do other things, plus it would still use less water and electricity.
hguant 4y ago
1. Handwashing is water inefficient compared to a lot of dishwashers; if this is something that's important to you, a device like this makes ecologic, if not necessarily economic sense 2. Dishwashers are expensive to people not on tech salaries. All upfront costs are difficult; a smaller upfront payment with a recurring monthly/quarterly subscription payment is much more manageable for many people. 3. There are many homes in America that aren't configured for a dishwasher and it would be expensive/difficult to remodel to get one to fit. Anecdotally, my cousin out in <small town outside a college> has this problem - he and his wife would greatly appreciate a dishwasher in their lives, but their home was built in the 1940s and renovating isn't happening on a post-doc + special ed teacher's combined salary
- tomohawk 4y ago
  > water inefficient Only if you don't know how to wash dishes by hand. Hand washing can be more efficient. If you live in one of those unsustainable cities built in a desert, this probably matters, but as someone who doesn't, I'm sick of subsidizing that lifestyle by having to deal with cleaning devices designed for those conditions that don't work well.
- detritus 4y ago
  How much would this have to be used to offset the (materials/energy/water) cost of manufacturing it though?
- spiffytech 4y ago
  > Handwashing is water inefficient compared to a lot of dishwashers My grandmother insisted the right way to hand-wash dishes was to plug the sink and fill it up, scrub with your hands in the water, then drain and rinse everything all at once. That should be similar efficiency (or greater?) vs a modern dishwasher, but I'm not sure anyone does that anymore. Everyone else I've seen leaves the water running the whole time.
  - madeofpalk 4y ago
    It looks like this dishwasher uses only 3 litres of water for a full cycle. That's probably significantly less than you're filling your sink up.
wombat-man 4y ago
I did my own dishes for a while. It wasn’t so bad, but if I didn’t have a machine now I’d love something like this to handle the small plates and flatware.
micromacrofoot 4y ago
why? I just put my dishes in and press a button. Dishes come out clean, I spend no time washing.
miralize 4y ago
That definitely works if you have two functioning hands, and some may not. I would love a product like this.

JohnJamesRambo 4y ago

I feel like my full size dishwasher doesn’t hold enough dishes…

seu 4y ago

Exactly. And especially considering the costs, which would have been very easy to calculate before purchasing the thing.

ameesdotme 4y ago

Bob- and apartment-owner here. We have a small kitchen and just don't have the space for a full-sized dishwasher. Bob fits snugly in the cabinet under the sink and runs once a day for a 2-person household. It's perfect for our needs and saves us a lot of both time and water.

fundatus 4y ago
Same! Also it washes at up to 70°C which you simply can't do when hand washing - but it gives you a much better result with less water usage.
- geewee 4y ago
  Much more energy usage though!

kilroy123 4y ago

I'm guessing you're not from Europe? Most flats are very small and there's simply no space for a traditional, large American style dishwasher.

Wohlf 4y ago

If it was my only option due to lack of space or not being allowed to install a full-size, I'd still find it worthwhile now that I eat at home much more often. One to two loads a day would handle everything but the pots and pans for me and my partner while we can do other things, plus it would still use less water and electricity.

hguant 4y ago

1. Handwashing is water inefficient compared to a lot of dishwashers; if this is something that's important to you, a device like this makes ecologic, if not necessarily economic sense 2. Dishwashers are expensive to people not on tech salaries. All upfront costs are difficult; a smaller upfront payment with a recurring monthly/quarterly subscription payment is much more manageable for many people. 3. There are many homes in America that aren't configured for a dishwasher and it would be expensive/difficult to remodel to get one to fit. Anecdotally, my cousin out in <small town outside a college> has this problem - he and his wife would greatly appreciate a dishwasher in their lives, but their home was built in the 1940s and renovating isn't happening on a post-doc + special ed teacher's combined salary

tomohawk 4y ago
> water inefficient Only if you don't know how to wash dishes by hand. Hand washing can be more efficient. If you live in one of those unsustainable cities built in a desert, this probably matters, but as someone who doesn't, I'm sick of subsidizing that lifestyle by having to deal with cleaning devices designed for those conditions that don't work well.
detritus 4y ago
How much would this have to be used to offset the (materials/energy/water) cost of manufacturing it though?
spiffytech 4y ago
> Handwashing is water inefficient compared to a lot of dishwashers My grandmother insisted the right way to hand-wash dishes was to plug the sink and fill it up, scrub with your hands in the water, then drain and rinse everything all at once. That should be similar efficiency (or greater?) vs a modern dishwasher, but I'm not sure anyone does that anymore. Everyone else I've seen leaves the water running the whole time.
- madeofpalk 4y ago
  It looks like this dishwasher uses only 3 litres of water for a full cycle. That's probably significantly less than you're filling your sink up.

wombat-man 4y ago

I did my own dishes for a while. It wasn’t so bad, but if I didn’t have a machine now I’d love something like this to handle the small plates and flatware.

micromacrofoot 4y ago

why? I just put my dishes in and press a button. Dishes come out clean, I spend no time washing.

miralize 4y ago

That definitely works if you have two functioning hands, and some may not. I would love a product like this.