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Polish here and ... I hate dubbing! It's like buying a Lambo and changing it's wheels to the ones from ford fiesta ;-) It is still a Lambo, but something quite

Polish here and ... I hate dubbing! It's like buying a Lambo and changing it's wheels to the ones from ford fiesta ;-) It is still a Lambo, but something quite not ok. ;-) In a times when I did not know a single thing about English it still did matter to me to hear real actors as voice is not only a words, but entire different word of emotions expression and it is a different experience when you get immersed into movie by million dollars actor then one who gets a couple of thousand at most just for dubbing. Another thing is that dubbing always sounds very artificial. And it is not only because it is hard to lip sync one lang in another, but also because background sound (noises etc) are very very hard to recreate in dubbing environment so most of the times watching such a movies feels like putting your TV on mute and playing something else instead. BUT... it is slowly changing in Poland. Movies and cartoons for kids and a lot of these aimed at kids and adults are dubbed nowadays.

kuschku 4y ago
Have you seen how German dubs are made? They're usually some of the best dubs (across all languages), but obviously still noticeably dubs. Depending on the content it can sometimes come close to the original, it's definitely very different from a single person reading all lines in a neutral tone (which I personally consider absolutely horrible, and I'm very glad that Germany only uses that for interviews on the news)
- smcl 4y ago
  > Germany only uses that for interviews on the news Yeah UK news is the same - someone speaking over the original audio which is audible but played at a lower volume. At the risk of introducing yet another tangent here, there's a funny twist to this. A few decades back the UK bizarrely had rules that Gerry Adams' (leader of Sinn Fein) voice could not be used on media broadcasts[0]. So you'd see footage of him with another guy's voice dubbed over it[1]. This was even parodied in comedy news show The Day Today[2] to great effect :D [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988%E2%80%931994_British_broadcasting_voice_restrictions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988%E2%80%931994_British_broa... [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQXQbDpIdY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQXQbDpIdY [2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR6jGJ1lq2U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR6jGJ1lq2U
- dekhn 4y ago
  my dad (american) visited germany to work on his german skills and watched "The Big Lebowski". He said the Germans in the movie were given russian accents.
- Semaphor 4y ago
  > They're usually some of the best dubs (across all languages), but obviously still noticeably dubs. Maybe, but the issue is, that they now sound like German actors. Who suck. I’m German and I almost didn’t watch Dark because I expected it to be as unnatural sounding as any other German show. I’ve heard that it’s because actors here learn acting for theater instead of for TV, but I’m not sure if that explains it (amongst other things, because Dark did not have that issue). IMO the best dubs are from the Nordic countries, those often speak English well enough that they just dub themselves, and that really shows in the quality of the dubbing. Israel is another country where I’ve heard great dubs by the actors themselves.
smcl 4y ago
> BUT... it is slowly changing in Poland This is good news, I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to watch a film that way. Czech versions supposedly have relatively good translations and dubbing, though I've not tried to watch anything other than The Simpsons. Interestingly there's a TV comedy about those responsible for the dubs: https://www.ceskatelevize.cz/porady/11104009943-dabing-street https://www.ceskatelevize.cz/porady/11104009943-dabing-stree...

kuschku 4y ago

Have you seen how German dubs are made? They're usually some of the best dubs (across all languages), but obviously still noticeably dubs. Depending on the content it can sometimes come close to the original, it's definitely very different from a single person reading all lines in a neutral tone (which I personally consider absolutely horrible, and I'm very glad that Germany only uses that for interviews on the news)

smcl 4y ago
> Germany only uses that for interviews on the news Yeah UK news is the same - someone speaking over the original audio which is audible but played at a lower volume. At the risk of introducing yet another tangent here, there's a funny twist to this. A few decades back the UK bizarrely had rules that Gerry Adams' (leader of Sinn Fein) voice could not be used on media broadcasts[0]. So you'd see footage of him with another guy's voice dubbed over it[1]. This was even parodied in comedy news show The Day Today[2] to great effect :D [0] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988%E2%80%931994_British_broadcasting_voice_restrictions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1988%E2%80%931994_British_broa... [1] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQXQbDpIdY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6WQXQbDpIdY [2] - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR6jGJ1lq2U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MR6jGJ1lq2U
dekhn 4y ago
my dad (american) visited germany to work on his german skills and watched "The Big Lebowski". He said the Germans in the movie were given russian accents.
Semaphor 4y ago
> They're usually some of the best dubs (across all languages), but obviously still noticeably dubs. Maybe, but the issue is, that they now sound like German actors. Who suck. I’m German and I almost didn’t watch Dark because I expected it to be as unnatural sounding as any other German show. I’ve heard that it’s because actors here learn acting for theater instead of for TV, but I’m not sure if that explains it (amongst other things, because Dark did not have that issue). IMO the best dubs are from the Nordic countries, those often speak English well enough that they just dub themselves, and that really shows in the quality of the dubbing. Israel is another country where I’ve heard great dubs by the actors themselves.

smcl 4y ago

> BUT... it is slowly changing in Poland This is good news, I can't imagine how frustrating it would be to watch a film that way. Czech versions supposedly have relatively good translations and dubbing, though I've not tried to watch anything other than The Simpsons. Interestingly there's a TV comedy about those responsible for the dubs: https://www.ceskatelevize.cz/porady/11104009943-dabing-street https://www.ceskatelevize.cz/porady/11104009943-dabing-stree...