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"Anytype is co-owned and co-created by the people who use it. Everyone is welcome to contribute to Anytype and everyone is rewarded." Is Anytype a DAO? I'm ge

"Anytype is co-owned and co-created by the people who use it. Everyone is welcome to contribute to Anytype and everyone is rewarded." Is Anytype a DAO? I'm getting whiffs of blockchain/"web3" stuff between the lines here, but they seem to be actively avoiding using those words. Can someone confirm/deny? If so, can you explain what exactly the relationship between the software and the blockchain stuff is? E.g., does the software depend on blockchains to operate, or is it just the governance structure for the developers?

shawa_a_a 4y ago
This was exactly my thought. The title is 'A local, privacy first Notion alternative', but the site talks about > can I own my piece of the new internet today? Which screams 'digital assets'. Why do I need to 'own a piece of the new internet', why can I not just own... a set of notes on my machine? The section which espouses the goals of the project smells similarly Web3 > We have a chance to end the nation state's monopoly on trust the same way as the printing press ended the church’s monopoly on truth. Again like, I don't know how 'privacy-first Notion alternative' also somehow involves dismantling nation states. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a free implementation of Notion (and by the UX of this landing page I don't doubt the developers have the resources and skills to do so), but I'd prefer that if this somehow involves digital assets and blockchains that it be front-and-center?
infogulch 4y ago
I don't see the source for anytype on their github org, but I do see forks of various go libraries: ipfs, libp2p (protocol layer abstracted from ipfs), badger (a kv store), mongo, goldmark (markdown parser), amplitude (product analytics... "privacy-first"?!), etc. This doesn't mean that these libraries will definitely be used but it seems to paint a clearer picture of what it will be than the marketing team's meaningless self-flagellation that is the overdone homepage.
throwaway102948 4y ago
If it quacks like a DAO and it walks like a DAO... "I was in the recent alpha onboarding, and it was mentioned in the long-term (I don’t recall completely and I’m probably wrong) you’ll set yourself up as a DAO to, in short, manage the main public instance of Anytype (I assume like rewarding 3rd party providers, decide on new features, etc.)" [0] (November '21) --- (my throwaway thoughts) Perhaps we're entering a new phase of crypto projects -- in an analoguous way to crypto-fascism [1] where the "crypto" part refers to "cryptic" i.e. hidden, it's possible that crypto(currency) projects are starting to be self-aware enough to not mention their roots, even though they are in fact blockchain-based. You could say that this is crypto-crypto i.e. Crypto 2.0! [0] https://community.anytype.io/t/long-term-future-decentralisation-plans/3017 https://community.anytype.io/t/long-term-future-decentralisa... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-fascism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-fascism
- SaulJLH 4y ago
  FFS can someone please advise what "DAO" is? >.> Thank-you.
  - guerrilla 4y ago
    Decentralized Autonomous Organization. It's a joint-stock company but based on shitcoins.
  - copperx 4y ago
    And what is FFS? Fast forwarding service?
    - jasonjmcghee 4y ago
      https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FFS https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FFS
- edbaskerville 4y ago
  I could imagine a post-crypto-crypto state, where projects that don't die first abandon their overt blockchain framing, and then actually abandon the blockchain entirely. E.g., ten years from now OpenSea evolves into a completely centralized system for digital assets. Too bad about Anytype. It looks like yet another project with many good ideas ruined by blockchain ideology.
  - pronkin 4y ago
    Anytype works on a peer-to-peer stack (as torrents), so there is no blockchain needed at this stage.
pronkin 4y ago
We are looking for sustainable way to govern our ecosystem in such a way that it does not depend on a single point of control. We are considering becoming a DAO and are researching this opportunity. No exact details are given, because we don’t have an answer yet. As for the product itself, it does not use any blockchain

shawa_a_a 4y ago

This was exactly my thought. The title is 'A local, privacy first Notion alternative', but the site talks about > can I own my piece of the new internet today? Which screams 'digital assets'. Why do I need to 'own a piece of the new internet', why can I not just own... a set of notes on my machine? The section which espouses the goals of the project smells similarly Web3 > We have a chance to end the nation state's monopoly on trust the same way as the printing press ended the church’s monopoly on truth. Again like, I don't know how 'privacy-first Notion alternative' also somehow involves dismantling nation states. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a free implementation of Notion (and by the UX of this landing page I don't doubt the developers have the resources and skills to do so), but I'd prefer that if this somehow involves digital assets and blockchains that it be front-and-center?

infogulch 4y ago

I don't see the source for anytype on their github org, but I do see forks of various go libraries: ipfs, libp2p (protocol layer abstracted from ipfs), badger (a kv store), mongo, goldmark (markdown parser), amplitude (product analytics... "privacy-first"?!), etc. This doesn't mean that these libraries will definitely be used but it seems to paint a clearer picture of what it will be than the marketing team's meaningless self-flagellation that is the overdone homepage.

throwaway102948 4y ago

If it quacks like a DAO and it walks like a DAO... "I was in the recent alpha onboarding, and it was mentioned in the long-term (I don’t recall completely and I’m probably wrong) you’ll set yourself up as a DAO to, in short, manage the main public instance of Anytype (I assume like rewarding 3rd party providers, decide on new features, etc.)" [0] (November '21) --- (my throwaway thoughts) Perhaps we're entering a new phase of crypto projects -- in an analoguous way to crypto-fascism [1] where the "crypto" part refers to "cryptic" i.e. hidden, it's possible that crypto(currency) projects are starting to be self-aware enough to not mention their roots, even though they are in fact blockchain-based. You could say that this is crypto-crypto i.e. Crypto 2.0! [0] https://community.anytype.io/t/long-term-future-decentralisation-plans/3017 https://community.anytype.io/t/long-term-future-decentralisa... [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-fascism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crypto-fascism

SaulJLH 4y ago
FFS can someone please advise what "DAO" is? >.> Thank-you.
- guerrilla 4y ago
  Decentralized Autonomous Organization. It's a joint-stock company but based on shitcoins.
- copperx 4y ago
  And what is FFS? Fast forwarding service?
  - jasonjmcghee 4y ago
    https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FFS https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=FFS
edbaskerville 4y ago
I could imagine a post-crypto-crypto state, where projects that don't die first abandon their overt blockchain framing, and then actually abandon the blockchain entirely. E.g., ten years from now OpenSea evolves into a completely centralized system for digital assets. Too bad about Anytype. It looks like yet another project with many good ideas ruined by blockchain ideology.
- pronkin 4y ago
  Anytype works on a peer-to-peer stack (as torrents), so there is no blockchain needed at this stage.

pronkin 4y ago

We are looking for sustainable way to govern our ecosystem in such a way that it does not depend on a single point of control. We are considering becoming a DAO and are researching this opportunity. No exact details are given, because we don’t have an answer yet. As for the product itself, it does not use any blockchain