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I suspect this emphasis on tactility is sentimental nonsense. But we should definitely give it a serious try to find out! What i would be much more interested

by twic 4y ago

I suspect this emphasis on tactility is sentimental nonsense. But we should definitely give it a serious try to find out! What i would be much more interested in is eye tracking. I have three screens covered in interactivity, but the speed at which i can interact with them - which is the speed at which i can explore and experiment - is limited by the speed with which i can grasp my mouse, then shove it around to position the cursor. I'm convinced i could do many things so much more fluidly if the machine could see where i was looking at transfer focus there in a flash.

ajdegol 4y ago
It’s not sentimental nonsense: it’s enactive cognition. I believe this is a hugely under appreciated capability of humans, possibly one of the keys to a type of genius.
tablespoon 4y ago
> I suspect this emphasis on tactility is sentimental nonsense. I don't think it's sentimental to think it's undesirable to have one of your senses muted.
a4isms 4y ago
Drive a modern car where everything that used to be a button or switch is now hidden behind glass. Wanting the return of mechanical controls with tactile feedback is not sentimentality, it's usability.
- euroderf 4y ago
  This glass-based crap is the most blatant evidence of pervasive user interface CHEAPNIS. Yes, bring back buttons... and big chunky toggle switches... and especially rocker switches <3 Ditch the useless glossy glass crap and the el-cheapo membrane buttons that rot out RSN.
  - pbhjpbhj 4y ago
    Rant: my car (Zafira) has an indicator stem that returns to centre when you activate it. Normally they stay offset so it's very clear the indicator is on. Pair that with a too quiet 'tick' sound and the indicator on the driver's panel being hidden behind the steering wheel ... it makes the vehicle so frustrating to drive. Argh, HCI is so important. Also, while I'm here, the steering wheel is adjustable in height as in many cars, but I've never seen a vehicle with indicator lights on the driver's panel at the top and bottom (they're all at the top) so there's always chance you can't see them when you adjust the wheel height. I've driven a lot of cars as we often hire. Seems like a fundamental flaw to me.
codalan 4y ago
I don't anticipate replacing my keyboard and mouse with a touchscreen for doing software development work. If it was measurable, I would guess that productivity plummeted for most companies that replaced the traditional computer/mouse/keyboard with a tablet. I remember going to an AT&T store years ago and watching the customer care rep struggle to get my information into their system with an iPad. A five minute data-entry task on a computer took this person almost 20 minutes on their tablet.
WillPostForFood 4y ago
How do you feel about typing on an iPad or iPhone or membrane keyboard vs a keyboard with actual keys and switches?

by twic 4y ago

ajdegol 4y ago

It’s not sentimental nonsense: it’s enactive cognition. I believe this is a hugely under appreciated capability of humans, possibly one of the keys to a type of genius.

tablespoon 4y ago

> I suspect this emphasis on tactility is sentimental nonsense. I don't think it's sentimental to think it's undesirable to have one of your senses muted.

a4isms 4y ago

Drive a modern car where everything that used to be a button or switch is now hidden behind glass. Wanting the return of mechanical controls with tactile feedback is not sentimentality, it's usability.

euroderf 4y ago
This glass-based crap is the most blatant evidence of pervasive user interface CHEAPNIS. Yes, bring back buttons... and big chunky toggle switches... and especially rocker switches <3 Ditch the useless glossy glass crap and the el-cheapo membrane buttons that rot out RSN.
- pbhjpbhj 4y ago
  Rant: my car (Zafira) has an indicator stem that returns to centre when you activate it. Normally they stay offset so it's very clear the indicator is on. Pair that with a too quiet 'tick' sound and the indicator on the driver's panel being hidden behind the steering wheel ... it makes the vehicle so frustrating to drive. Argh, HCI is so important. Also, while I'm here, the steering wheel is adjustable in height as in many cars, but I've never seen a vehicle with indicator lights on the driver's panel at the top and bottom (they're all at the top) so there's always chance you can't see them when you adjust the wheel height. I've driven a lot of cars as we often hire. Seems like a fundamental flaw to me.

codalan 4y ago

I don't anticipate replacing my keyboard and mouse with a touchscreen for doing software development work. If it was measurable, I would guess that productivity plummeted for most companies that replaced the traditional computer/mouse/keyboard with a tablet. I remember going to an AT&T store years ago and watching the customer care rep struggle to get my information into their system with an iPad. A five minute data-entry task on a computer took this person almost 20 minutes on their tablet.

WillPostForFood 4y ago

How do you feel about typing on an iPad or iPhone or membrane keyboard vs a keyboard with actual keys and switches?