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I was expecting them to want you to make a donation and send the receipt, but they want you to actually round up less fortunate kids and take them out for pizza

by paulgb 4y ago

I was expecting them to want you to make a donation and send the receipt, but they want you to actually round up less fortunate kids and take them out for pizza. Bizarre.

tremon 4y ago
I'm what is known as a white devil these days: white, male, single, rich. If I were to gather any number of kids I have no affiliation with and take them to dinner, I would probably get arrested.
t67576567567 4y ago
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- nvr219 4y ago
  Nobody gets arrested for buying pizza for a bunch of kids.
  - theodric 4y ago
    OK, show us how it's done
    - nvr219 4y ago
      ok
  - Hamuko 4y ago
    Someone apparently got arrested for offering candy to kids though, so I wouldn't count on it. https://www.shawlocal.com/2020/10/26/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-after-offering-candy-to-children-police/aqv3rr/ https://www.shawlocal.com/2020/10/26/man-charged-with-disord...
    - wonderbore 4y ago
      I mean, rolling down the window offering candy to strangers is the literal textbook example of a 70s predator, so it’s extremely suspicious. Hand out candy while walking and it won’t be that bad.
      - mike_hock 4y ago
        It's a comical stereotype of a pedophile that it's almost laughable that police took it seriously. I wonder what came out of that "disorderly conduct" charge, because what did he do other than remind someone of a stereotype?
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  - amalcon 4y ago
    Maybe not arrested, but you are pretty likely to have an unpleasant interaction with the police at a minimum if you're walking up to kids and asking them to come with you. Honestly the best way to do this (as in least likely to interact with the police) in the U.S. would be to hire actors -- which would feel awfully scummy to me, but that's honestly the safest way to do it. Now, if it asked you to buy some pizzas and just hand them to some less fortunate kids, you could probably do that without interacting with the police. You'd still need to be careful, but it could probably be done.
    - dheera 4y ago
      Just invite the parents along, or deliver the pizza to them. Problem solved
  - chasd00 4y ago
    it's unfair but a woman may be able to pull this off with kids that live on her street with parents she's at least waved at. A man? not so much, and the police will definitely be engaged.
  - 9873259735609 4y ago
    Not in most of the world, but I could definitely see someone get arrested (or worse) for that in the US.
- prmoustache 4y ago
  They don't state you shouldn't ask the parents (and also invite them) to complete task 2.
  - cuttysnark 4y ago
    "okay...but why are you doing this for us?" "m'am, it's a long story...they have my files. Also, I am recording you. Who wants breadsticks?!"
- topaz0 4y ago
  People in this thread have extremely optimistic expectations of the police. In this country at least, the police don't protect poor people, kids or no. It's not what they're spending their time doing.
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usednet 4y ago
Its definitely a cultural thing. The task would be extremely easy in any Indian city, but they probably don’t realize it would be near impossible in the West. Same with task 3, it would bankrupt Americans to pay for somebody else’s medical bills.
- andi999 4y ago
  Or task 3 would also be impossible in a country with universal health care.
  - cube00 4y ago
    Even countries with universal health care have private hospitals, they'll take your money. One near me asks you to consider paying for their services out of your retirement funds if you don't have private health insurance.
    - GaylordTuring 4y ago
      In Sweden, where my opinion of the public health care is that it's useless (unless you're having a really acute problem), I've looked for private hospitals to get help from. No such luck! Finding a specialist to help you, no matter if you have money and are willing to pay feels close to impossible, at least for the things that I've needed help with.
    - andi999 4y ago
      So change the premise of a person who cannot afford the treatment to cannot afford it in a private hospital? Hownto find such a person? Probably the easiest of alln3 is to fly to some poor country and do the stuff there (supported by a local lawyer).
      - 9873259735609 4y ago
        There are plenty of people who cannot get care at government hospitals in countries with "universal healthcare", because of waiting lists, because the government doesn't consider the treatment they need to be worthwhile, etc. You could easily find some of those people on crowdfunding sites, and the media occasionally writes about such cases. The problem is that paying for their treatment at a private hospital would be very expensive, unless the ransomware would accept a partial crowdfunding contribution.
dheera 4y ago
I think one of the truly bizarre issues with helping the less fortunate is that many affluent people don't want to be seen helping people on the street. They'd rather discreetly put money in a box for "someone else" to do the "dirty" work.
- psd1 4y ago
  ...and also... Charity is a thing to do _discreetly_. One would never brag. That's a cultural thing in the UK. The rules are different for the famous, where you can influence the behaviour of others by publicly endorsing a cause; but for private citizens, to boost about their good deeds? Frightfully infra dig
pbhjpbhj 4y ago
Arguably the value in potential change of the rich interacting with the poor is immeasurably higher than the meal itself's monetary value. I think if I needed to do this in a UK community where I wasn't already known then I'd speak to a MP/councillor and say I wanted to fund them having a meal with X poor families so they could hear about their struggles and such. It's actually an interesting challenge. You could probably donate '5 family pizza dinners' to a school in a poorer area, eg for a school fair.

by paulgb 4y ago

I was expecting them to want you to make a donation and send the receipt, but they want you to actually round up less fortunate kids and take them out for pizza. Bizarre.

tremon 4y ago

I'm what is known as a white devil these days: white, male, single, rich. If I were to gather any number of kids I have no affiliation with and take them to dinner, I would probably get arrested.

t67576567567 4y ago

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nvr219 4y ago
Nobody gets arrested for buying pizza for a bunch of kids.
- theodric 4y ago
  OK, show us how it's done
  - nvr219 4y ago
    ok
- Hamuko 4y ago
  Someone apparently got arrested for offering candy to kids though, so I wouldn't count on it. https://www.shawlocal.com/2020/10/26/man-charged-with-disorderly-conduct-after-offering-candy-to-children-police/aqv3rr/ https://www.shawlocal.com/2020/10/26/man-charged-with-disord...
  - wonderbore 4y ago
    I mean, rolling down the window offering candy to strangers is the literal textbook example of a 70s predator, so it’s extremely suspicious. Hand out candy while walking and it won’t be that bad.
    - mike_hock 4y ago
      It's a comical stereotype of a pedophile that it's almost laughable that police took it seriously. I wonder what came out of that "disorderly conduct" charge, because what did he do other than remind someone of a stereotype?
- deleted 4y ago
  [deleted]
- amalcon 4y ago
  Maybe not arrested, but you are pretty likely to have an unpleasant interaction with the police at a minimum if you're walking up to kids and asking them to come with you. Honestly the best way to do this (as in least likely to interact with the police) in the U.S. would be to hire actors -- which would feel awfully scummy to me, but that's honestly the safest way to do it. Now, if it asked you to buy some pizzas and just hand them to some less fortunate kids, you could probably do that without interacting with the police. You'd still need to be careful, but it could probably be done.
  - dheera 4y ago
    Just invite the parents along, or deliver the pizza to them. Problem solved
- chasd00 4y ago
  it's unfair but a woman may be able to pull this off with kids that live on her street with parents she's at least waved at. A man? not so much, and the police will definitely be engaged.
- 9873259735609 4y ago
  Not in most of the world, but I could definitely see someone get arrested (or worse) for that in the US.
prmoustache 4y ago
They don't state you shouldn't ask the parents (and also invite them) to complete task 2.
- cuttysnark 4y ago
  "okay...but why are you doing this for us?" "m'am, it's a long story...they have my files. Also, I am recording you. Who wants breadsticks?!"
topaz0 4y ago
People in this thread have extremely optimistic expectations of the police. In this country at least, the police don't protect poor people, kids or no. It's not what they're spending their time doing.
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usednet 4y ago

Its definitely a cultural thing. The task would be extremely easy in any Indian city, but they probably don’t realize it would be near impossible in the West. Same with task 3, it would bankrupt Americans to pay for somebody else’s medical bills.

andi999 4y ago
Or task 3 would also be impossible in a country with universal health care.
- cube00 4y ago
  Even countries with universal health care have private hospitals, they'll take your money. One near me asks you to consider paying for their services out of your retirement funds if you don't have private health insurance.
  - GaylordTuring 4y ago
    In Sweden, where my opinion of the public health care is that it's useless (unless you're having a really acute problem), I've looked for private hospitals to get help from. No such luck! Finding a specialist to help you, no matter if you have money and are willing to pay feels close to impossible, at least for the things that I've needed help with.
  - andi999 4y ago
    So change the premise of a person who cannot afford the treatment to cannot afford it in a private hospital? Hownto find such a person? Probably the easiest of alln3 is to fly to some poor country and do the stuff there (supported by a local lawyer).
    - 9873259735609 4y ago
      There are plenty of people who cannot get care at government hospitals in countries with "universal healthcare", because of waiting lists, because the government doesn't consider the treatment they need to be worthwhile, etc. You could easily find some of those people on crowdfunding sites, and the media occasionally writes about such cases. The problem is that paying for their treatment at a private hospital would be very expensive, unless the ransomware would accept a partial crowdfunding contribution.

dheera 4y ago

I think one of the truly bizarre issues with helping the less fortunate is that many affluent people don't want to be seen helping people on the street. They'd rather discreetly put money in a box for "someone else" to do the "dirty" work.

psd1 4y ago
...and also... Charity is a thing to do _discreetly_. One would never brag. That's a cultural thing in the UK. The rules are different for the famous, where you can influence the behaviour of others by publicly endorsing a cause; but for private citizens, to boost about their good deeds? Frightfully infra dig

pbhjpbhj 4y ago

Arguably the value in potential change of the rich interacting with the poor is immeasurably higher than the meal itself's monetary value. I think if I needed to do this in a UK community where I wasn't already known then I'd speak to a MP/councillor and say I wanted to fund them having a meal with X poor families so they could hear about their struggles and such. It's actually an interesting challenge. You could probably donate '5 family pizza dinners' to a school in a poorer area, eg for a school fair.